Obama wanted to apologize for Hiroshima, Nagasaki

12 Oct 2011 19:14 #11 by Martin Ent Inc
BO should just apologize to the World,,, maybe make a song or something.

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12 Oct 2011 19:19 #12 by archer
I'd rather see our president bow to a foreign leader in respect than try to give them a back rub.

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12 Oct 2011 19:31 #13 by LOL
I'd rather see our president fight for fair trade policies, patent protections and level the playing field with our competition, instead of bowing to them and apologizing for our past success.

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12 Oct 2011 19:52 - 12 Oct 2011 20:39 #14 by otisptoadwater
I do recall the Japanese signing the articles of surrender but I don't recall them making any apologies for their attack on Pearl Harbor or their treatment of allied prisoners during the war. The war is over and Japan surrendered, no one is owed an apology then or now.

Does anyone recall how much the USA invested in restoring the economies and infrastructure of Japan and (then) West Germany? As the victors the USA could have turned their back on their former foes and let the remaining population suffer and die but that's not what happened.

I think Barry is just hunting for more photo sessions and "look at me doing something good" moments in a vain attempt to boost his approval ratings and feed his re-election campaign.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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12 Oct 2011 20:12 #15 by Residenttroll returns

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12 Oct 2011 20:43 #16 by archer

otisptoadwater wrote: I do recall the Japanese signing the articles of surrender but I don't recall them making any apologies for their attack on Pearl Harbor or their treatment of allied prisoners during the war. The war is over and Japan surrendered, no one is owed an apology then or now.


Actually they did try to apologize and McArthur rejected it. Tit for tat I guess.

Toward the end of the Occupation of Japan, Emperor Hirohito let it be known to SCAP that he was prepared to apologize formally to Gen. MacArthur for Japan's actions during World War II—including an apology for the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor.[5]
Patrick Lennox Tierney was an eye-witness on the day the Emperor came to SCAP headquarters to present this apology. When the emperor arrived, MacArthur refused to admit him or acknowledge him. When this happened, Tierney was in his office on the fifth floor of the Dai-Ichi Insurance Building in Tokyo. This was the same floor where MacArthur's suite was situated.[5]

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12 Oct 2011 20:52 #17 by archer
Sorry, I forgot to put the source in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... d_by_Japan

It's a long list of Japanese apologies for war

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12 Oct 2011 22:01 #18 by PrintSmith

Conservation Voice wrote: It shouldn't be "would Japan have apologized." I like to think the United States is the one who sets the standard -- above and beyond what other nations would do.

We remain the only country in the world to have used atomic weapons on a civilian population.

Which says nothing about why an apology would be owed for doing so. Both Hiroshima and Nagasakki were legitimate military targets in addition to being civilian population centers. Japan advocated for and practiced total warfare, including training that "civilian" population as a militia to protect the homeland during the inevitable Allied invasion of the home islands. The Japanese people were fully prepared to sacrifice their lives for their emporer god, even if it meant charging machine guns armed o.ly with hoes. There were more lives spared by using the atomic bomb than were taken - especially given the fact that more lives were lost in the firebombing of Tokyo than in either of the cities that were bombed using nuclear weapons. All in all, it was more humane to bring the war to a swifter conclusion than it would have been to proceed with conventional methods.

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12 Oct 2011 23:10 #19 by Wayne Harrison

PrintSmith wrote:

Conservation Voice wrote: It shouldn't be "would Japan have apologized." I like to think the United States is the one who sets the standard -- above and beyond what other nations would do.

We remain the only country in the world to have used atomic weapons on a civilian population.

more lives were lost in the firebombing of Tokyo than in either of the cities that were bombed using nuclear weapons.


Gen. Douglas MacArthur's aide, Brigadier Gen. Bonner Fellers, called Tokyo-Bombings "one of the most ruthless and barbaric killings of noncombatants in all history.

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13 Oct 2011 06:43 #20 by PrintSmith
And yet, for reasons unexplained, the focus for apologies continues to be for the use of nuclear weapons instead of something far more brutal and inhumane. Why do you suppose that would be Wayne?

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