These are Obama’s Riots!

06 Nov 2011 06:18 #1 by outdoor338
We’ve seen social revolution before, but this is the first time a sitting president, his advisers, union supporters, and a supporting media have endorsed it with such vigor. Rudy Giuliani said it best: Obama owns Occupy Wall Street.” Here are his extended remarks:

“This is a very dangerous movement, and it’s ironic it’s happening under a president who promised to unify us. Barack Obama owns the Occupy Wall Street movement, it would not have happened but for his class warfare. . . . Barack Obama praised it, sympathizes with it. As it gets worse and worse, I believe this will be the millstone around Barack Obama’s neck that will take his presidency down.”

Irony has nothing to do with it. Obama’s goal has always been social disruption, class warfare, and institutionalized envy. The late 1960s and the early 1970s protestors hoped to bring down the government of the United States using the War in Vietnam as a catalyst. Obama and his supporters are using social and economic discontent to do the same thing.

http://visiontoamerica.org/5331/these-are-obamas-riots/

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06 Nov 2011 07:30 #2 by Photo-fish
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06 Nov 2011 07:40 #3 by LadyJazzer
Nah...These are Wall Street's riots... They earned 'em...

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06 Nov 2011 07:57 #4 by Arlen
Replied by Arlen on topic These are Obama’s Riots!
Exploiting people's emotions of fear, envy and anxiety is not hope, it's not change, it's partisanship. We don't need partisanship. We don't need demagoguery, we need solutions.

Envy is motivating these protesters and it is the most disgusting and base motive.

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06 Nov 2011 08:19 #5 by bailey bud
"Institutionalized envy?"

Look - I'm a free-market capitalist (became one after I visited Russia in 1987, and concluded, 'this idea doesn't work.')

But maybe - just maybe - OWS was inspired by institutionalized greed.

It's really hard to feel good about free markets when blatantly incompetent and/or corrupt CEOs bilk millions of dollars from investors (and tax-payers), and then get handed another million dollars as severance pay.

While I used to think it was just a few isolated cases - it's been happening enough that I'm really starting to wonder just how functional our system really is.

My meat prices have just about doubled over the last year, thanks to some hedge fund person jumping into the market - and the department of labor is still announcing that there's not much inflation out there - meanwhile - my money market pays one-half of one percent interest per year.

Meanwhile - some big buck hedge fund manager is sitting in his cozy Aspen bungalow, reveling in the fact that capitalism is doing well.......

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06 Nov 2011 08:25 #6 by Arlen
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bailey bud, please don't be offended, but re-read your post. It smacks of envy. You have attributed motives and attitudes to others whenever you do know their soul. You have villainized a group of people. This type of thinking is what allows such unjust actions as genocide, war, and class warfare. Do not succomb to envy. Envy is for those who are small of spirit.

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06 Nov 2011 08:34 #7 by LadyJazzer
Envy? No... Actually, the class warfare has been underway for over 30 years...the war against the middle and lower classes. But you keep spouting your Rightie talking-points. Probably makes you feel better.

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06 Nov 2011 08:35 #8 by lionshead2010
I would say that this article highlights a strong undercurrent in our society. Long-term unemployment and just what that is doing to the job market and the worker who no longer works in it. I won't pretend to fully understand the plight of those who have been unemployed for more than 99 months, but I have a hard time believing there is NO work they can do once their benefits run out. How can it be that a person who gets up every morning with the "job" of finding work can't find some job out there? How long can a person sit at home and not work before they start to see themselves in a different (perhaps unflattering) light?

I think the Government has done a hell of a lot to help the long-term unemployed hold on until opportunity knocks. You have to wonder though how much longer our Government can help. When does it become the person's responsibility to get out there and find SOME work? It may not be the corporate executive work, managerial work or highly skilled technician work they were doing before....but it could be some work. The kind that puts food on the table and gas in the car.

I watched the later half of the Grapes of Wrath Friday evening and was reminded how bad it can get and how hard American's worked to make ends meet back then. Perhaps we need that sort of work ethic again. Don't riot about it.....get out there and work!

Unemployment Benefits: Most Of The Unemployed No Longer Receive Benefits

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/0 ... nk2|110308

WASHINGTON — The jobs crisis has left so many people out of work for so long that most of America's unemployed are no longer receiving unemployment benefits.

Early last year, 75 percent were receiving checks. The figure is now 48 percent – a shift that points to a growing crisis of long-term unemployment. Nearly one-third of America's 14 million unemployed have had no job for a year or more.

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06 Nov 2011 08:37 #9 by Reverend Revelant

Photo-fish wrote: :Snooze :Snooze :Snooze :Snooze


I guess you don't have to jump through a whole lot of intellectual hoops to click on a animated gif 4 times. I was surprised you could count that high? Or did you just start manically clicking all over the place?

The Occupy movement, and the violence, civil disorder, lawlessness, sexual assaults, drug use Et-al, firmly belongs in the lap of the Democrats and the current Administration.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi "God bless them for their spontaneity. It's independent, it's young, it's spontaneous, and it's focused. And it's going to be effective."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _them.html


Obama understands...

“I understand the frustrations being expressed in those protests,” Obama told ABC News senior White House correspondent Jake Tapper in the interview to air this evening on ABC News “Nightline” from Jamestown, N.C. “In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party. Both on the left and the right, I think people feel separated from their government. They feel that their institutions aren’t looking out for them,” he said.

http://shawsblog2011.blogspot.com/2011/ ... ccupy.html


Biden understand too...

At a speech in Kentucky earlier Monday, House Speaker John Boehner said he could relate to the “frustrations” of the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

“I understand people’s frustrations,” Boehner said during an appearance at the University of Louisville center named for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthru ... treet.html


I'm not sure why the left, the progressives and the socialist have any trouble embracing this movement. This is your "Tea Party" (according to President Obama... see above) and you should be proud of all the damage, unrest, law breaking, deaths, destruction of public and personal property, the effect on small business owners, abuses against women, hell...

The chaos and crime at Occupy Wall Street reflects similar patterns of apparent violent disorder at Occupy protests across North America–from heroin dealing in Boston, to assaults at Occupy Oakland, to an alleged rape at Occupy Cleveland, to alleged sexual assault at Occupy Ottawa, and to an unexplained death at Occupy Oklahoma City. Activists have, at several sites, discouraged each other from reporting serious crimes–including rape–to the police.

http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/201 ... cotti-park


The country will remember this at election time 2012.

Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD

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06 Nov 2011 08:43 #10 by bailey bud
I don't really support OWS. It's a waste of time and energy. I get their point, though.

I'm closer to pacifism than revolution - but don't have many reservations about speaking out against corruption, greed, and exploitation.

Not wanting my 401k robbed by a self-serving goon is not envy. Not wanting my meat prices pumped up by mere speculation is not envy. I'm fine with paying a reasonable price to the butcher. I'm fine with paying a million dollar salary to a person who knows what "fiduciary responsibility" means, and takes it serious. I'm not fine with him diverting my funds to his Aspen bungalow, and then wanting severance pay when I object.

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