Here's your "voter fraud"... (Can't win if they don't cheat)

Gooch

Like I said, archer is LJ's parrot :roflol: ..LJ hangs in the wind :coldwind: , and she swoops in to save em :VeryScared: ...how funny!

outdoor338 wrote: Like I said, archer is LJ's parrot :roflol: ..LJ hangs in the wind :coldwind: , and she swoops in to save em :VeryScared: ...how funny!

And the Emoticon King swoops in to save LGOPT.

This site has become too predictable.

I love it....when cought looking like whiny children the conservatives try to deflect attention away from themselves with personal attacks. Why does it bother you conservatives so much if I choose to comment on a thread LJ starts? You all gang up on any liberal post...but you go crying to each other if two liberals post on the same thread.

LadyJazzer wrote: Oh, how cute... The O'Keefe/Breitbart videos which the Colorado Attorney General ruled were phony because of the dishonest editing...

I do love it when you have nothing more than fake videos and lies in answer to a court conviction... Who knew?

Can you provide a link where the Colorado Attorney General (or anyone else) ruled the videos to be phony? Edited yes, but even 60 Minutes edits their tapes (not that I'm comparing the two). Even the attorney generals that I know of said a lot of inappropriate stuff was going on, even if they didn't feel there was evidence to convict for the incidents shown in the tapes.

I'm not a fan of the techniques used by O'Keefe, but he didn't put words in the Acorn people's mouth. He didn't use actors or CGI to fake the videos. And the full videos are available for viewing.

From what I've seen, the two biggest complaints are that O'Keefe didn't really wear a pimp suit, and that one ACORN person (out of many) did eventually call the police. But to some, that and the fact there was editing, makes them ignore everything on the tapes.

But even without those tapes, ACORN has been found involved in plenty of other wrong doings. Here's a few...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ud26m.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/us/09embezzle.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/22/voter.fraud/

And here is a compilation of ACORN schenanigans...

http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

pineinthegrass wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: Oh, how cute... The O'Keefe/Breitbart videos which the Colorado Attorney General ruled were phony because of the dishonest editing...

I do love it when you have nothing more than fake videos and lies in answer to a court conviction... Who knew?

Can you provide a link where the Colorado Attorney General (or anyone else) ruled the videos to be phony?

Why yes.... I can:

(NOTE: I meant to say CALIFORNIA Attorney General...not "COLORADO Attorney General"...so sue me.)

California Attorney General: Breitbart's ACORN tapes were "severely edited"


Brown Releases Report Detailing a Litany of Problems with ACORN, But No Criminality

Although highly inappropriate, the evidence does not show that the ACORN employees in California violated state criminal laws in connection with their conversations with O’Keefe and Giles.

Even if O’Keefe and Giles had truly intended to break the law, there is no evidence that any of the ACORN employees had the intent to aid and abet such criminal conduct or agreed to join in that illegal conduct. Aiding and abetting liability requires the aider and abettor (1) to know the perpetrator intends to commit the crime and (2) to intend to aid and abet the perpetrator in committing the crime. (People v. Perez, supra, 35 Cal.4th at p.1225.) Likewise, conspiracy liability requires both the specific intent to agree and the specific intent to commit the elements of the offense which is the object of the conspiracy. (People v. Vargas, supra, 91 Cal.App.4th at
p. 551.) It is this lack of intent which obviates any possible criminal liability. Additionally, there is no evidence that any of the California ACORN employees did any act to further or promote any of the criminal activity discussed with O’Keefe and Giles.

The edited O’Keefe videos released on the BigGovernment.com website portrayed ACORN as an organization infested with employees committing crimes. However, the impression of rampant illegal conduct created by the recordings at the various ACORN offices around the country is not supported by the evidence related to the videos in California.

O’Keefe stated he was out to make a point and to damage ACORN and therefore did not act as a journalist objectively reporting a story. The video releases were heavily edited to feature only the worst or most inappropriate statements of the various ACORN employees and to omit some of the most salient statements by O’Keefe and Giles. Each of the ACORN employees recorded in California was a low level employee whose job was to help the needy individuals who walked in the door seeking assistance. Giles and O’Keefe lied to engender compassion, but then edited their statements from the released videos. Would it have been best had each ACORN employee simply refused to deal with the couple and shown them the door when their story came out? Of course.

ACORN was not the criminal enterprise described by O’Keefe in his “Chaos for Glory” statement – it did not receive billions in federal funds and did not control elections. ACORN is, however, disorganized and its operations were far from transparent, leaving it vulnerable to allegations of illegal activity and misuse of funds.

Ergo, the tape was a phony...


Then he tried to bug the office of U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu:

On January 25, 2010, James O’Keefe was arrested by the FBI and charged with entering a federal building with the intent to commit a felony. The arresting affidavit alleged that O’Keefe and three other men plotted to wiretap the phones of U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu’s office in New Orleans, Louisiana. O’Keefe issued a statement claiming his intent was to investigate whether Senator Landrieu’s phones were broken. Senator Landrieu, a Democrat, supported the federal healthcare reform bill and opponents of the bill complained that their calls to her office were met with busy signals. In an interview, the Senator had apologized and stated that the volume of calls had overloaded her staff and voice mail. An attorney for one of the other men said the men did not intend to interfere with her phones, but rather intended to make a film embarrassing the Senator because of her support for the healthcare bill. On March 28, 2010, the US Attorney announced reduced charges against the four men. The press reported that the attorney for one of O’Keefe’s co-defendants said they reached a deal to plead guilty to a misdemeanor.

All of which has no relevance or "equivalence" to the CONVICTIONS of the GOP Voter-Suppression activities.

Here's the phone script that got him nailed to the wall... "Hello. I'm calling to let everybody know that Governor O'Malley and President Obama have been successful," the call said. "Our goals have been met. The polls were correct, and we took it back. We're OK. Relax. Everything's fine. The only thing left is to watch it on TV tonight. Congratulations, and thank you."

If they would have put who the call was from, they might have gotten away with the reverse psychology defense they were trying.

Playing off the inherent laziness of the American voter... Effective, but illegal.

If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying! And if Dem voters are fooled by these calls, we didn't want stupid people voting anyway.

And if it's illegal, you will be arrested, and convicted...

Thanks for playing...