Science Shows Conservatives Don't Believe in Science Anymore

03 Apr 2012 14:51 #21 by LadyJazzer
Yes, fraudulent...Like the garbage from "The Heartland Institute" and "The Energy Institute", the champions of the industry-led "denier" movement. ("Tobacco Institute" ring any bells?..."NO, really--cigarettes are NOT dangerous or addictive...in fact, they're GOOD for you...")

(And don't forget the laughable "fracking" commercials... "Don't pay any attention to the fact that you can hold a match close to your water coming out of the tap and set fire to it...No, REALLY... Fracking is 'safe'...and 'good for the economy.'..." Suckers....

God, the capitalist :Koolaid: drinkers will suck up anything the corporations dish out...

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03 Apr 2012 14:54 #22 by BearMtnHIB
I have seen these "so called" scientists do this dance around the truth first hand.

They take data that is inconclusive- and they jump to conclusions. They start with an agenda that needs a certian outcome- and they work backwards to reach that outcome. Along the way they disregard the data that is contrary to their desired outcome.

That is dishonest- deceitful and fraudulent.

Many times if you really look into it- there's public money involved- studies and careers built on taxpayer money.

They disregard truth for their own profit- and it's all based on a stack of lies.

At least an honest capitalist has integrity- they want to profit - yes- but are not willing to be crooked- more and more- the science from the left is rotten to the core.

That's not science- not at all.

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03 Apr 2012 15:04 #23 by LadyJazzer

BearMtnHIB wrote: They disregard truth for their own profit- and it's all based on a stack of lies.


That's what I just said....

BearMtnHIB wrote: At least an honest capitalist has integrity- they want to profit - yes- but are not willing to be crooked- more and more- the science from the left is rotten to the core.

That's not science- not at all.


When large corporations are involved, the words "profit", "honest" and "integrity" do not belong in the same sentence.

BearMtnHIB wrote: Many times if you really look into it- there's public money involved- studies and careers built on taxpayer money.


The usual generalizations pulled out of your nether-regions...unless, of course, you have a source other than the usual climate-change-deniers. But keep repeating it...I'm sure you can get the rest of the "believers" to jump on board...

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03 Apr 2012 15:15 #24 by BearMtnHIB
I would no sooner trust a "scientific" study funded by a large corporation like a tobacco company - as I would trust a study funded by "Earth First" about man made climate change.

They both have agenda's.

The same way you don't trust a large corporation- I don't trust environmental organizations about climate change.

They both have an agenda and I bet if you really look close- they both have some money to gain in one way or the tuther.

Distrust is healthy- it is the sign of an astute educated - self capable individual, not a trait of the gullible sheep.

I can hear many of you out there bleating.

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03 Apr 2012 15:19 #25 by LadyJazzer
At the moment, I only hear you.

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03 Apr 2012 16:58 - 03 Apr 2012 17:01 #26 by BearMtnHIB
Here I will now show- using the same scientific logic as the so called "scientists" that conducted this study, that Science Chick has an agenda about Man made Climate Change.

See the facts show by reading her posts, that Science Chick has never considered the possibility that nature changes the climate by itself- without man at all- my evidence is solid- there have been heat waves and ice ages- long before man ever farted a molecule of methane or before woman ever exhaled a breath of CO2.

But we will ignore all those facts- the evidence shows an agenda- always in support of man made climate change. Show me any supporting posts to the contrary. We can even include todays topic "Everything that is good for the environment is a job".

The evidence is clear- she's got it all figured out, despite many man made pro-climate change experts changing their minds about the matter. There are dozens of articles she could have referenced that point to an open mind on the issue- but I have never seen one posted by her. She's as sure about it as LJ is sure there is no god.

I can thereby conclude - that SC has an agenda- not by the "science", but by the political agenda. Just show me some evidence where any post is questioning man made climate change and I will retract my conclusion, but until then my agenda theory should be accepted as fact by all you liberal sheep!

Just as the studies show- I have used solid data to make my conclusions.

See how well this works?

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03 Apr 2012 17:00 #27 by Martin Ent Inc
I beleive Ancient Aliens, are returning, and they are the ones that have messed up the climate with their rocket boosters/microwave thingy's.

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03 Apr 2012 17:14 #28 by LadyJazzer
Posting articles for people who still think the earth is flat, and the sun revolves around the Earth are a waste of time and bandwidth. For the folks who drink the Kool-Aid of the "Heartland Institute", the "Energy Institute", and the ever-present Koch Brothers, no answer will satisfy.

I also don't believe the Earth is less than 6,000 years old, or that scientists "somehow get rich" off of their research. But then, I don't live in a fantasy world where things are ruled by a 3,000-year-old book of superstition.

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04 Apr 2012 12:49 #29 by ScienceChic

BearMtnHIB wrote: Here I will now show- using the same scientific logic as the so called "scientists" that conducted this study, that Science Chick has an agenda about Man made Climate Change.

Yes, I do now after careful consideration of both sides of the argument over 2+ years of studying the data myself.

BearMtnHIB wrote: See the facts show by reading her posts, that Science Chick has never considered the possibility that nature changes the climate by itself- without man at all- my evidence is solid- there have been heat waves and ice ages- long before man ever farted a molecule of methane or before woman ever exhaled a breath of CO2.

And you would be wrong http://www.pinecam.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... highlight=
Or go back to any of my early posts on global warming and you will see that I wasn't as adamant as I am now, because I was still early in my journey for the truth. I've certainly kept a more open mind that you have. And if you listen to the climate scientists, instead of the contrarians who make your mind up for you, you would know that they do not dismiss the effects of natural variables at all, on the contrary they readily admit that there are natural forces at work even now; however, they do not and will not come anywhere close to the size of the effects of the human influences on climate occurring right now, and that is the problem. We're messing with something that will come back to bite us in the @$$.

But we will ignore all those facts- the evidence shows an agenda- always in support of man made climate change. Show me any supporting posts to the contrary. We can even include todays topic "Everything that is good for the environment is a job".

Yes, until the evidence shows otherwise because the evidence supporting it is overwhelming at this point and I'm not one to keep denying that which is reality. Why did you ignore the facts I presented about rising CO2 concentrations and the greenhouse effect CO2 has in the atmosphere, readily measured and easily quantified?

BearMtnHIB wrote: The evidence is clear- she's got it all figured out, despite many man made pro-climate change experts changing their minds about the matter. There are dozens of articles she could have referenced that point to an open mind on the issue- but I have never seen one posted by her. She's as sure about it as LJ is sure there is no god.

And as I said in that thread I linked above, show me credible scientific evidence that explains the warming based purely on natural sources? No one has yet, I look forward to that evidence as it would mean that we aren't headed down an ugly, tragic path. I, and many other scientists, would be glad to be wrong about anthropogenic global warming. And I have posted before that the initial claims on increasing frequencies of hurricanes was too preliminary to make that conclusion, and that turned out to be true.

I can thereby conclude - that SC has an agenda- not by the "science", but by the political agenda. Just show me some evidence where any post is questioning man made climate change and I will retract my conclusion, but until then my agenda theory should be accepted as fact by all you liberal sheep!

And when have you ever seen me quote political sources to justify my claims? I don't - I quote the science, as evidenced by my earlier post in this thread asking you basics concerning the rising CO2 concentrations and effects - that's not politics, that's pure observation through the scientific method. You conveniently ignore that fact yourself. You, sir, have an agenda of your own based on superstition, misinformed talking points, and fear of government control, neither of which will solve the problems at hand. You wanna learn the science, and not the political agenda, go to the source (and it's not the media).


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04 Apr 2012 14:20 #30 by bailey bud
I was unable to find anyone named "Gordon Gaulet" at the University of North Carolina.

I suppose it depends on one's definition of "science."

Incidentally, I'm very comfortable with microevolution, I'm not going to argue about the age or temperature of the earth.

Sure, I might contest conclusions about how it got there - but that's what sicence is about --- right?

My biggest scientific question is, "Who's Gordon Gaulet?"

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