Rep. Coffman guilty of violating military code

Only to active personel.

His oath is to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic, right? Not the president, the Constitution - from the president if necessary. The oath that officers of the armed forces take:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Wesley Clark, Democratic Presidential Candidate - 38-year career of public service in the Army, culminating as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO.

The disastrous consequences of George W. Bush's poor judgment over these last 7 1/2 years are all too apparent. Now, John McCain is offering 4 more years of Bush -- while Barack Obama offers the change in direction our country so desperately needs.

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

CLARK: ...I think this is an administration that has really walled itself off inside the White House. I think you got a president who fighting for his personal survival. I don't know how he's surviving without a flow of accurate information, but he is. And he continues to say things and deny the obvious. I'm sure there's some heated discussions among his aides, but I think they understand that he desires to be kept insulated and from what I've talked to, members of Congress and others, who have seen him in recent weeks and recent months. He has done everything he can to wall himself off from what we believe is the truth.

http://crooksandliars.com/2007/07/14/we ... eorge-bush

Ho hum.

Something the Dog Said wrote:

neptunechimney wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: Coffman in his "apology" for "misspeaking" refers to himself in the present tense as a Marine, so it appears that the military code does apply.

It appears that your lack of knowledge about Marines is vast. Ever hear the phrase "Once a Marine, always a Marine"?

So then the military code does apply. Semper Fi

No... it appears that you are making something up out of nothing. You go prove your point, give us an example of another retired serviceperson who has been held to your supposed scheme... I bet you can't. Oh... I know... you're the first person to ever consider this and bring up the subject... well... you better make some phone calls and get this court martial going... let us know how you do... this is so f'ing funny.

PrintSmith wrote: His oath is to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic, right? Not the president, the Constitution - from the president if necessary. The oath that officers of the armed forces take:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

And what are the duties of the office upon which he entered? Well, according to Article 88 of the Military Code, it includes:

"Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."

Something the Dog Said wrote:

neptunechimney wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: Coffman in his "apology" for "misspeaking" refers to himself in the present tense as a Marine, so it appears that the military code does apply.

It appears that your lack of knowledge about Marines is vast. Ever hear the phrase "Once a Marine, always a Marine"?

So then the military code does apply. Semper Fi

rofllol OK archer, whatever you say.

Something the Dog Said wrote: Republican congressman Mike Coffman made this remark in a public speech in Elbert County yesterday:

"I don't know whether Barack Obama was born in the United States of America. I don't know that," Coffman said. "But I do know this, that in his heart, he's not an American. He's just not an American.""

Under the military code:
"Article 88 (of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), which makes it a crime for an officer to use contemptuous words against the president, the vice president, Congress, the secretary of defense, the secretary of a military department, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, or the governor or legislature of any state, territory, commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present."

Coffman is a commissioned member of the U.S. Marine Corp, thus he would be subject to a court martial EXCEPT he is claiming congressional immunity. Is this acceptable? He was not acting in his capacity as a congressman, but as a political candidate. Which is he, a member of the military or a political hack?

And you must have missed this part in the code you yourself quoted "in which he is on duty or present" Was he on duty?

My post was based on the understanding that Coffman is still subject to the military code. If that understanding is incorrect, then of course Coffman can ignore the military code and just be a political hack.

Something the Dog Said wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: His oath is to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic, right? Not the president, the Constitution - from the president if necessary. The oath that officers of the armed forces take:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

And what are the duties of the office upon which he entered? Well, according to Article 88 of the Military Code, it includes:

"Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."

You keep ignoring "on duty or present"... that means ON DUTY (acting in some capacity on some detail he's been assigned) OR PRESENT (like he's attending an event as a spectator).

You made all this up... didn't you? As one of your fellow travelers would say... "Thanks for playing."

Coffmann is just "walking it back"...That's Romney-speak for "flip-flop"... Stay tuned... When he goes back out into the wild, he will no-doubt flip-flop on his flip-flop for the local-yokels....