Jobless rate goes to to 8.2% - Unexpectedly

CritiKalbILL wrote:

archer wrote: :rofl

I'd believe you bill, that liberals were scared of this election, if it wasn't so obvious that the conservatives are the ones in full panic mode.....People are fed up with the legislative grid lock.....and many people put the blame for that squarely on the Republicans. It was bad before....it is infinitely worse now since the 2010 elections. I definitely see signs of conservative concern for a backlash against them in November.

But hey....carry on, put your head back in the sand, and pretend that everything bad that ever happened to this country is the Democrat's fault and electing Republicans will bring utopia. It ain't true, and the American people are at least smarter than that.

I realize you can't face the facts that the economy runs on the fuel CREATED by the private sector. Show me how the government creates jobs and you win a cookie. All you've given me is liberal mush without any kind of substance about why the unemployment rate is going back up.

The people who are in real panic mode don't live in Washington either...it's the people who sacrifice their time and money to build businesses that are the most scared IMO.

Absolutely small businesses should be scared about this election, if Romney wins this election, and takes this country back to the same policies that got us here, small businesses will not flourish.If Romney goes back on his original statements that affordable healthcare is important.....then small businesses are going to suffer. My son, who owns a small business is hampered right now with the uncertainty about the ACA being shut down. He relies on part time designers and needs many more (these are designers who work for many businesses across the design/art industry, but the cost of healthcare has driven them out of this business because they cannot get affordable healthcare) Most design firms hire as they need to, and the designers themselves like being able to work for many firms, but without the ability to get healthcare they have to find other work, and the design firms have to cut back the work they can do because they can't get employees. Just one small example of how Obama has helped small businesses. Retail businesses face the same issue.

archer wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

archer wrote: :rofl

I'd believe you bill, that liberals were scared of this election, if it wasn't so obvious that the conservatives are the ones in full panic mode.....People are fed up with the legislative grid lock.....and many people put the blame for that squarely on the Republicans. It was bad before....it is infinitely worse now since the 2010 elections. I definitely see signs of conservative concern for a backlash against them in November.

But hey....carry on, put your head back in the sand, and pretend that everything bad that ever happened to this country is the Democrat's fault and electing Republicans will bring utopia. It ain't true, and the American people are at least smarter than that.

I realize you can't face the facts that the economy runs on the fuel CREATED by the private sector. Show me how the government creates jobs and you win a cookie. All you've given me is liberal mush without any kind of substance about why the unemployment rate is going back up.

The people who are in real panic mode don't live in Washington either...it's the people who sacrifice their time and money to build businesses that are the most scared IMO.

Absolutely small businesses should be scared about this election, if Romney wins this election, and takes this country back to the same policies that got us here, small businesses will not flourish.If Romney goes back on his original statements that affordable healthcare is important.....then small businesses are going to suffer. My son, who owns a small business is hampered right now with the uncertainty about the ACA being shut down. He relies on part time designers and needs many more (these are designers who work for many businesses across the design/art industry, but the cost of healthcare has driven them out of this business because they cannot get affordable healthcare) Most design firms hire as they need to, and the designers themselves like being able to work for many firms, but without the ability to get healthcare they have to find other work, and the design firms have to cut back the work they can do because they can't get employees. Just one small example of how Obama has helped small businesses. Retail businesses face the same issue.

And who's fault is ACA? And why would the administration frame a bill that can't stand up to constitutional muster (by an administration headed by a constitutional "expert") and the constitutionality of it has to be decided by the Supreme Court? The problems with the ACA falls firmly in the lap of the President. I'm glad you (and your son) are acutely aware of the problem.

First step in recovery is admitting that you are a liberal and that liberal legislation is flawed.

Ugly summer ahead.
Dow down 263.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/jobs-report-market-slide-raise-fear-cruel-summer-170854234.html

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:
First step in recovery is admitting that you are a liberal and that liberal legislation is flawed.

I guess if you don't have reasonable arguments you have nothing left but insults.

There is no need for anyone to panic right now. Obama's graph shows we'll be at only 5.2% unemployment by election time. $820 billion well spent!

Oh - i didn't see Obama's graph there.

We got nothing to worry about then.

But I wonder- that graph shows that by 2014- the economy ends up in the same place no matter if we had the recovery plan or not!

Why spend the trillions and get into so much debt if we wind up in the same place either way?

Hmmm....

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:
First step in recovery is admitting that you are a liberal and that liberal legislation is flawed.

I guess if you don't have reasonable arguments you have nothing left but insults.

You must have missed (or ignored) my argument in the same post... I'll post it again to help you out...

And who's fault is ACA? And why would the administration frame a bill that can't stand up to constitutional muster (by an administration headed by a constitutional "expert") and the constitutionality of it has to be decided by the Supreme Court? The problems with the ACA falls firmly in the lap of the President. I'm glad you (and your son) are acutely aware of the problem. [/b]

Well the DOW settled out at -274.88 points today.

"No Shelter: 2012 Gains Erased in Torrent of Selling"
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/no-shelter-2012-gains-erased-torrent-selling-195450391.html;_ylt=AmZ1S.YiU30A7WKeVrgUDfmiuYdG;_ylu=X3oDMTQzbmg5djh0BG1pdANGaW5hbmNlIEZQIEp1bWJvdHJvbiBMaXRlBHBrZwM3ZWMwMmQ0Yy03ZDZiLTNiMjQtODQ4YS1kZmE4MTI4NzEyMTMEcG9zAzEEc2VjA2p1bWJvdHJvbgR2ZXIDMzhiMzU1ZjAtYWMyNS0xMWUxLTk3ZmQtZDY3YTgyZjY2OGE1;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:
First step in recovery is admitting that you are a liberal and that liberal legislation is flawed.

I guess if you don't have reasonable arguments you have nothing left but insults.

You must have missed (or ignored) my argument in the same post... I'll post it again to help you out...

And who's fault is ACA? And why would the administration frame a bill that can't stand up to constitutional muster (by an administration headed by a constitutional "expert") and the constitutionality of it has to be decided by the Supreme Court? The problems with the ACA falls firmly in the lap of the President. I'm glad you (and your son) are acutely aware of the problem. [/b]

There was little truth or even half truth in that argument......We don't know yet if the bill will stand up to constitutional muster, the problems with the ACA lie firmly with the Republicans that watered down the real meat of the bill, but what is left is a damn sight better than what we have had.

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:
First step in recovery is admitting that you are a liberal and that liberal legislation is flawed.

I guess if you don't have reasonable arguments you have nothing left but insults.

You must have missed (or ignored) my argument in the same post... I'll post it again to help you out...

And who's fault is ACA? And why would the administration frame a bill that can't stand up to constitutional muster (by an administration headed by a constitutional "expert") and the constitutionality of it has to be decided by the Supreme Court? The problems with the ACA falls firmly in the lap of the President. I'm glad you (and your son) are acutely aware of the problem. [/b]

There was little truth or even half truth in that argument......We don't know yet if the bill will stand up to constitutional muster, the problems with the ACA lie firmly with the Republicans that watered down the real meat of the bill, but what is left is a damn sight better than what we have had.

I see Obamacare as a massive dose of chemotherapy that could be better fixed with a concentrated dose of radiation. But the Dems knew that, they know this POS bill will kill insurance companies, hurt businesses and eliminate our free choices. The Dems know this is the only way to go with a full on single payer system that everyone (except them of course) must adhere to. As soon as the majority of citizens are forced to rely on the government for almost everything, the sooner the Dems will hold power forever.