Jobless rate goes to to 8.2% - Unexpectedly

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote: They didnt do anything to stop the bleeding if anything they stopped the progress...they stopped everything ...rather like a toddler stomping his foot and refusing to participate. Temper tantrums by grownups are never helpful.

What about the 27 jobs bills passed by the House that Reid has tabled?

That's the point. And if the R's held the Senate with the Dems holding the house, the Dems would be squeeling like stuck pigs if the Senate ignored the bills passed by the House. The only way to get anything done is for one party to control both plus the presidency. The Dems had their chance and dropped the ball.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote: They didnt do anything to stop the bleeding if anything they stopped the progress...they stopped everything ...rather like a toddler stomping his foot and refusing to participate. Temper tantrums by grownups are never helpful.

What about the 27 jobs bills passed by the House that Reid has tabled?

What about them? If they can't craft a bill that will get bi-partisan support they are just spinning their wheels. There has to be compromise in congress...I believe that Obama has compromised far more than he should have, and the Republicans have not given an inch, primarily because of a pledge they took to never, ever, raise taxes......even when some increases in revenue are badly needed in this country.

I know you and I don't see any of this the same way.....you are looking at it from your partisan view, and I from mine. But really......compromise has always been how the game in Washington is played......there are 2 major parties, and rarely does one or the other have a majority big enough to overcome the objections of the other party. No....not even Obama's first two years......and not now with Republicans in the house......they must compromise to keep the country moving forward and I just don't see any of that happening over the last two years.

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote: They didnt do anything to stop the bleeding if anything they stopped the progress...they stopped everything ...rather like a toddler stomping his foot and refusing to participate. Temper tantrums by grownups are never helpful.

What about the 27 jobs bills passed by the House that Reid has tabled?

What about them? If they can't craft a bill that will get bi-partisan support they are just spinning their wheels. There has to be compromise in congress...I believe that Obama has compromised far more than he should have, and the Republicans have not given an inch, primarily because of a pledge they took to never, ever, raise taxes......even when some increases in revenue are badly needed in this country.

I know you and I don't see any of this the same way.....you are looking at it from your partisan view, and I from mine. But really......compromise has always been how the game in Washington is played......there are 2 major parties, and rarely does one or the other have a majority big enough to overcome the objections of the other party. No....not even Obama's first two years......and not now with Republicans in the house......they must compromise to keep the country moving forward and I just don't see any of that happening over the last two years.

How many jobs bills were crafted when the Democrats had the House, the Senate and the Presidency from 2008-2010?

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote: They didnt do anything to stop the bleeding if anything they stopped the progress...they stopped everything ...rather like a toddler stomping his foot and refusing to participate. Temper tantrums by grownups are never helpful.

What about the 27 jobs bills passed by the House that Reid has tabled?

What about them? If they can't craft a bill that will get bi-partisan support they are just spinning their wheels.

So what does that say about the budgets Obama "crafted" that got 0% support from either side? I thought he was so brilliant?

CritiKalbILL wrote:

archer wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

archer wrote: They didnt do anything to stop the bleeding if anything they stopped the progress...they stopped everything ...rather like a toddler stomping his foot and refusing to participate. Temper tantrums by grownups are never helpful.

What about the 27 jobs bills passed by the House that Reid has tabled?

What about them? If they can't craft a bill that will get bi-partisan support they are just spinning their wheels.

So what does that say about the budgets Obama "crafted" that got 0% support from either side? I thought he was so brilliant?

Hey, what could be more bi-partisan than a97/0 vote. :bash

FYI....the president does not craft bills....congress does.

archer wrote: FYI....the president does not craft bills....congress does.

It was his proposed budget.

Can someone please explain to me what a "jobs bill" actually looks like? What makes the bills crafted by the Republicans jobs bills but those crafted by democrats are not.

archer wrote: Can someone please explain to me what a "jobs bill" actually looks like? What makes the bills crafted by the Republicans jobs bills but those crafted by democrats are not.

I was talikng about a budget, you injected bills. I don't think we need a jobs bill, I think we need give job creators a reason to risk more capital. Seeing a massive tax increase coupled with an expensive HC bill isn't going to do anything but make employers leary of future costs.
Now I'll wait for LJ's usual slam on job creators...

CritiKalbILL wrote:

archer wrote: Can someone please explain to me what a "jobs bill" actually looks like? What makes the bills crafted by the Republicans jobs bills but those crafted by democrats are not.

I was talikng about a budget, you injected bills. I don't think we need a jobs bill, I think we need give job creators a reason to risk more capital. Seeing a massive tax increase coupled with an expensive HC bill isn't going to do anything but make employers leary of future costs.
Now I'll wait for LJ's usual slam on job creators...

It's not all about you bill....my question was prompted by this question.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: What about the 27 jobs bills passed by the House that Reid has tabled?

I simply wanted to know what a "jobs bill" is according to the GOP.