Paul Ryan - Government did not help?

So the Mittster claims that the government can not help. Yet he picks as his VIP someone who has based their entire career off the taxpayer. Ryan went to college off Social Security benefits, and has spent his entire adult career off taxpayer funds. He did have a brief foray at one point driving the wienermobile, but his entire career has been from the taxpayer. How does that square with Romney's claim that the government does not help?

You really are dense. His father paid into SS all his working life. Ryan worked for his government pay, it wasn't handed to him for showing up. It's one thing to get government handouts, it's quite another to be elected to office and get a salary for doing a job.

And what has Ryan provided the taxpayers for his more than millions of dollars in taxpayer funds that he has received? Two bills, one for a post office name and one for excise tax reduction for arrows.

Your density is at question. Romney claims that the government does not help. Yet his VP pick has depended upon the government his entire adult life. I understand that you appreciate hypocrisy, hypoCriticKalBill.

What did Obama do for his years in the Senate? I agree, politicians are a waste of money, but they are what they are. It's NOT the same as a government handout no matter how many tiimes you say it.

A cop is a government employee right? He's not not depending on the government like an unwed mother with 6 kids. Same goes for anyone who gets a government PAYCHECK... a job is offered, a job is accepted, work is then traded for pay. You may not think the work is worthy of a paycheck, (I don't think someone like Pelosi deserves what she gets either) but that's not my call.

RELYING on the government is not the same as WORKING for the government. Unless you think Ryan wasn't capable of doing anything else and would have ended up on welfare, your argument just fell flat.

CritiKalBill wrote: What did Obama do for his years in the Senate? I agree, politicians are a waste of money, but they are what they are. It's NOT the same as a government handout no matter how many tiimes you say it.

A cop is a government employee right? He's not not depending on the government like an unwed mother with 6 kids. Same goes for anyone who gets a government PAYCHECK... a job is offered, a job is accepted, work is then traded for pay. You may not think the work is worthy of a paycheck, (I don't think someone like Pelosi deserves what she gets either) but that's not my call.

RELYING on the government is not the same as WORKING for the government. Unless you think Ryan wasn't capable of doing anything else and would have ended up on welfare, your argument just fell flat.

So in your opinion, someone who does nothing to earn his taxpayer funded salary is ok? Ryan has shown that he has not been able to get a job in the private sector. It is actually very funny to read your post and read your signature. Your rep as HypoCritiKalBill is well deserved. You argue that the government does provide jobs while arguing that the government does not provide jobs. Great! I really enjoy your hypocrisy. READ YOUR POST AND YOUR SIGNATURE!

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CritiKalBill wrote: What did Obama do for his years in the Senate? I agree, politicians are a waste of money, but they are what they are. It's NOT the same as a government handout no matter how many tiimes you say it.

A cop is a government employee right? He's not not depending on the government like an unwed mother with 6 kids. Same goes for anyone who gets a government PAYCHECK... a job is offered, a job is accepted, work is then traded for pay. You may not think the work is worthy of a paycheck, (I don't think someone like Pelosi deserves what she gets either) but that's not my call.

RELYING on the government is not the same as WORKING for the government. Unless you think Ryan wasn't capable of doing anything else and would have ended up on welfare, your argument just fell flat.

So in your opinion, someone who does nothing to earn his taxpayer funded salary is ok? Ryan has shown that he has not been able to get a job in the private sector. It is actually very funny to read your post and read your signature. Your rep as HypoCritiKalBill is well deserved. You argue that the government does provide jobs while arguing that the government does not provide jobs. Great! I really enjoy your hypocrisy. READ YOUR POST AND YOUR SIGNATURE!

Let me tell you why your're wrong dog. You must believe the government does a person a favor by "allowing" him or her to have a job, whether it be as a cop, a soldier, or a congressman. We know the sacrifices the first two make right? Is the government doing them a service or are the cop and soldier doing the government a service? Now what about the congressman... does that person not also do the government (the US citizens) a service? Think about it.

I would think that a liberal like yourself would know that anyone working in the private sector is exchanging his/her service for compensation.... it's an equal two way street. I know you don't believe that employer is just doing an employee some sort of favor by hiring him... the employee adds VALUE to the company and ideally makes it better. The same exact thing goes for people who work in the public sector... those people keep the country running whether you agree with them or not.

So tell me now, did the government (the people) do Paul Ryan a service or did Paul Ryan serve this country after being elected by the people? And what about Ryan's father... did he not provide a service to whoever he worked for, pay taxes, pay SS, and add to the success of this country? His father paid into SS and was obviously never going to see a return himself, but his family deserves to.

Sometimes you really surpise me Dog.

Your premise is flawed Dog - no surprise there. Given that your premise is flawed, so too is all that comes after it. Instead of demagoguery, why not try an little intellectual honesty for a change?

Well Dog, looks like checkmate for me since you painted yourself into a corner. Better luck next time.

How so? My point is that Romney claims that government does not help, yet his VP pick used government help almost solely to move his life along. What rebuttal has been provided? We have Printsmith who claims that Ryan performs a service to the country by taking over a million dollars from the taxpayer while providing almost no services for that money, and we have hypocritialbill who claims that Ryan earned the money from a government job while also claiming that there are no such things as government jobs.

Your point is flawed - Romney never said that the government doesn't help. Given the fatal fallacy that exists with that as your beginning point, there is no purpose served by continuing the discussion once that fatal fallacy is exposed.