LadyJazzer wrote: Gee, if that were any meaningful percentage of the population, that would be bad... Too bad it's not...
You need to listen to something other than Limburger and the Rightie echo-chamber.
Unlike you, I actually work, and try to employ people. I have people every day who work a couple days, then quit and go back on unemployment. Manual labor is too hard.
Unlike your incorrect and asinine assumption that because I took retirement I don't work, I DO work... So you can take your "You don't work" snark and shove it in the nearest bodily orifice. I work as an independent contractor, and I have no interest in "employing other people." Been there, done that. That doesn't make you better than me... That means I made another choice...And I still pay taxes on the income I make from my choice.
Something the Dog Said wrote: As far as fear, that is a Republican concept. Hope is the Democratic concept.
Funniest line all day. Republicans message had no fear in it, except the fear of a massive burdening debt on the next generation. Democrats scared people all over by saying Republicans were going to rob granny and gramps and put them on the street, and ban all forms of birth control and not allow any abortions. That is fear mongering. Please tell me what part of the rep platform had fear in it??
Fear that Obama was going to take their guns away. Fear that Obama was going to kill off religion. Fear that Obama was going to let the UN take over this country. Fear that Obama was going to invite terrorists in the White House for tea and crumpets. Fear that Obama is a muslim, closet gay, anti-gun, socialist, marxist loving, facist loving, alien that is going to impose the UN over the god fearing sovereign citizens of the United States of America. and so on, and so on, and so on.
I mean really, after the last election, can you name a single positive that Romney was for, as opposed to what Obama was against?
"Remember to always be yourself. Unless you can be batman. Then always be batman." Unknown
LadyJazzer wrote: Gee, if that were any meaningful percentage of the population, that would be bad... Too bad it's not...
You need to listen to something other than Limburger and the Rightie echo-chamber.
Unlike you, I actually work, and try to employ people. I have people every day who work a couple days, then quit and go back on unemployment. Manual labor is too hard.
Unlike your incorrect and asinine assumption that because I took retirement I don't work, I DO work... So you can take your "You don't work" snark and shove it in the nearest bodily orifice. I work as an independent contractor, and I have no interest in "employing other people." Been there, done that. That doesn't make you better than me... That means I made another choice...And I still pay taxes on the income I make from my choice.
So, go screw yourself.
Didn't say it made me better, it just means I actually employ people. You know, a conservative idea. Create work, and employ others so they can pay taxes too! You sound like a democrat...it is all about you!!
You have such a mean and nasty attitude, I can imagine you wouldn't want employees. You'd fire every one of them if they didn't parrot your hate for anyone not like you. I on the other hand, employ all races, sex, orientation, etc, and we all get along great!
Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!
Yeah, I spent the last 7 years managing multi-million dollar contracts ($31mil - $52mil, to be somewhat exact), managing a staff of as many as 35 people...And I DID have the power to hire-and-fire.
What you think you know about me wouldn't half-fill a thimble...
LadyJazzer wrote: What you think you know about me wouldn't half-fill a thimble...
Go screw yourself.
And I would guess that what you know about Renegade and others is the same, yet they aren't saying go screw yourself. Your candidate won, lighten up please.
I think this excellent post by netdude got ignored so I'm going to quote it b/c I think it's worth discussing. The election gets us emotional, it's time to chill out. Nothing's going to change much, the parties in majority remained in majority, the problems we face aren't going to change, and it looks like there was a good voter turnout - we need to keep that activity up by keeping an eye on bills that are introduced, and writing our reps to work together and solve those problems. If it's another 4 years of partisan bickering, we're definitely hosed.
netdude wrote:
Hopefully this election will serve as a wake up call to the GOP and that some of power is removed from the mossbacks. Here is to hoping that groups like the Rocky Mountain Black Conservatives and the Colorado Hispanic Republicans continue to grow and have a strong voice.
Grady, to be hones I hope they do, but there does need to be some real soul searching down to where the far right even gets their message/information.... here is an interesting article. Basically shows where the information on the right was so far off base.
Yes, from a left leaning site (somewhat) but everything leans left when all you look at is fox news/news max and others.
To be honest, we need to start to come together.... not sure how that happens but it's not by blasting each other, calling each other names and denigrating each others ideologies.
Can we start having open and functional discussions? I hope so... lets try not hating but try talking to each other like neighbors who disagree, that is what we can do. You guys don't hate this country neither does LJ and others on the left.
I am not a 'everything the democratic part does is right' not a 'everything the republican party does is wrong' person, but I do think the republicans do need to get back to a true 'conservative' mentality. Cranking up religious folks againt abortion and GLBT rights issues helps no one except the extremes. The country is changing, you can't hold that back. The world is changing, and it's a world we need to exist in. The whole 'Obama is a socialist who wants to destroy our country ' crap needs to stop.
I believe in energy independence, why? It helps on many levels. Will there be costs? Failures? Sure! But that should not be reasons to stop.
Oil needs to flow, we need to maximize what we do have as we try and work alternatives.... no doubt.
Natural gas, it's an abundant clean resource
Cut government spending... how? Fvck TSA, scew Homeland Security, These albatross-like programs take away freedoms and cost a shit-ton of cabbage.... find a better way beside removing OUR freedoms.
There are many other ways we can cut but until things start to really get cranked up with our economy lets leave the social safety net alone.. and it will, for now. As things get better, those cost will go down. Once they do, re-examine then. These programs are a small bit of our deficit.
WE need to get more money into the hands of the middle class, they are the engine that will continue to drive this recovery. I know everyone thinks the rich will spend moreif you give them cuts... guess what, there is enough data out there that proves they don't, they don't hire any more, they don't spend any more, they put it away. They save it. NOt that bad of a thing, but it does not warrant the cuts. Help the middle class and they rich WILL get richer.. it will happen. Their profits go up etc. Everyone benefits from a strong economy.
This is a start, I know many of you will want to knock holes in it, go ahead. Just please try and not use name calling and stereo-typing. I will promise one thing. I will do my best not to get back into that rut and if everyone (left/right) does... maybe this board can get back to arguing about policy and not such inane bullshit that it has devolved into as of late.
Obama is not a socialist.... things are getting better, we were in one hell of a recession and could slip back into it if we just do the same old shit, Or we can actually recognize that we all are Americans, both sides have valid points and maybe, just maybe there is room for functional compromise. I also believe we should demand compromise from our elected officials.... we need things to move. These stalemates are not doing the job.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
LadyJazzer wrote: Yeah, I spent the last 7 years managing multi-million dollar contracts ($31mil - $52mil, to be somewhat exact), managing a staff of as many as 35 people...And I DID have the power to hire-and-fire.
What you think you know about me wouldn't half-fill a thimble...
Go screw yourself.
From spending a lot of time reading some (or mostly) bile filled posts from you from back on PC to here on 285Bound, I can only ascertain one thing. Your anger. How could anyone get to know you, when all you do is insult everyone who doesn't parrot your far left opinions? You should be happy today. You got all you want. We conservatives have to go back to the drawing board. And yet...all you can say is "screw you", "stick it in your orifice", and other nasty things.
Why can't you just revel in your party's success instead of continuously attacking. I personally would like you to now turn your focus on your own party, to hold them accountable to actually fix the huge problems facing us. That was our plan should our guys have won. We weren't done with them. We expected them to do what they said.
Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!
"Unlike you, I actually work, and try to employ people...."
"I actually employ people. You know, a conservative idea. Create work, and employ others so they can pay taxes too! You sound like a democrat...it is all about you!! "
Yes... We did win... And your assumption about my personal life, and my "worth as an American citizen", and whether I "ACTUALLY WORK" required a response. I don't care if you liked my response or not.
Please DO "go back to the drawing board"...and PLEASE let it be that you "weren't conservative enough."
netdude wrote:
I do think the republicans do need to get back to a true 'conservative' mentality. Cranking up religious folks againt abortion and GLBT rights issues helps no one except the extremes.
I cannot disagree, refer to my mossback comment
netdude wrote: The country is changing, you can't hold that back. The world is changing.
netdude wrote: Cut government spending... how? Fvck TSA, scew Homeland Security, These albatross-like programs take away freedoms and cost a shit-ton of cabbage.... find a better way beside removing OUR freedoms.
netdude wrote: WE need to get more money into the hands of the middle class, they are the engine that will continue to drive this recovery.
Capitalism needs a strong healthy middle class.
netdude wrote: Obama is not a socialist....
Maybe not but I really don't think he believes America and her citizens are special. He is more of a globalist than Bush was, or any other of the past presidents.
