Forget the Fiscal Cliff

LadyJazzer wrote: I already have in another thread... You can't boycott it... But thanks for playing...

You mean someone said "government" and you went with that? Yea, guess I CAN'T boycott it.

Keep seeing new posts, but I don't buy it. Not unless she owns a franchise, and that's pushin' it. I think government just about does it. Hell, I come pretty close to a government worker, my job is taxpayer funded, and I hate the hell out of it. Actually decided to go back to school to learn a trade instead of staying standing on the shoulders of others, and guess what? I'm paying for every dime...*gasp*.

As a point of reference, when attempting to discuss anything with LJ, archer, raees and other liberals, don't have any expectation that logic or reality will apply.

Last time you looked the sky was blue, grass was green, and Obama was and is a Socialist. You are incorrect, the Obama Zombies will bring this to your attention.

Jekyll wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: I already have in another thread... You can't boycott it... But thanks for playing...

You mean someone said "government" and you went with that? Yea, guess I CAN'T boycott it.

Keep seeing new posts, but I don't buy it. Not unless she owns a franchise, and that's pushin' it. I think government just about does it. Hell, I come pretty close to a government worker, my job is taxpayer funded, and I hate the hell out of it. Actually decided to go back to school to learn a trade instead of staying standing on the shoulders of others, and guess what? I'm paying for every dime...*gasp*.

You obviously have me confused with someone who gives-a-sh*t whether you believe it or not. That makes it even funnier, since I can say anything I like, and you won't believe it anyway... rofllol

otisptoadwater wrote: As a point of reference, when attempting to discuss anything with LJ, archer, raees and other liberals, don't have any expectation that logic or reality will apply.
Last time you looked the sky was blue, grass was green, and Obama was and is a Socialist. You are incorrect, the Obama Zombies will bring this to your attention.

And then their Narcissistic attitude and lack of respect towards others,,, well you understand.

Pot/Kettle/Black

There it is that racisit stuff.

Martin Ent Inc wrote: There it is that racisit stuff.

racisit? Sounds dirty rofllol

LadyJazzer wrote: Since Social Security has not added one dollar to the debt, your damned right I am against any cuts to it. It's time to fund it...not cut it.

I DEFINITELY believe that the DoD budget can be cut in half without doing anything except getting rid of the ever-popular waste/fraud/abuse in the defense-contractor areas. Cutting back on unnecessary overseas military occupations?...You betcha!

And you're right, I DO believe there wasn't enough stimulus...And I hope they correct that soon. You are NOT going to cut your way to prosperity. And the Randroids can cry "austerity" all they want. I'm still waiting for the GOTP to put it's version of what it's going to cut on the table. Mitt-Flop wouldn't do it during the election; and I don't see the GOTP doing anything but dancing around the issue now. You betcha...

You wanna play "chicken" with the budget?....Let's go for it.

So you too claim Social Security has not added one dollar to the debt? Do you have a link to support that?

I already posted a link that shut up Dog on that subject from factcheck.org. All I asked is what what did Dog have to specifically show that factcheck was wrong and then Dog disappeard. So now it's your turn. No diverting or calling names. How specifically is factcheck wrong? And oh, they posted an even newer article on it than last time. So here it is...

Sen. Richard Durbin says that “Social Security does not add one penny to our debt.” That’s false. It was wrong 21 months ago, when Durbin said it once before, and it’s even more off the mark now.

The federal government for the first time in its history had to borrow money in 2010 to cover Social Security benefits to retired and disabled workers — a trend that worsened in 2011 and will not change at any point in the future unless changes are made.

Durbin made his remarks about Social Security on ABC’s “This Week.” The Illinois Democrat argued that Social Security should not be part of the year-end negotiations between Congress and President Obama to raise revenues and cut spending in order to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff.


Durbin, Nov. 25: Social Security does not add one penny to our debt — not a penny. It’s a separate funded operation, and we can do things that I believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency.

It’s true that Social Security is “a separate funded operation,” primarily through payroll taxes and income taxes on benefits. But tax revenues no longer cover the cost of Social Security benefits. As a result, Social Security is adding to the debt.

The combined shortfall for Old-Aged and Survivors and Disability Insurance (OASDI) trust funds was $36.8 billion (page 453, Table 28-4) in 2010. It rose to $48 billion (page 465 Table 28-4) in 2011. Those figures are from the White House’s Office of Management and Budget.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office in a January 2012 report estimated that the 2012 shortfall will be $59 billion — rising to $76 billion in 2013, $86 billion in 2014 and $86 billion again in 2015. The CBO does not project beyond 2015 because “CBO projects the DI trust fund will be exhausted during fiscal year 2016.”

CBO projected a total shortfall of $355 billion over five years, from January 2011 through 2015. That’s more than double what CBO estimated just a year ago, when the budget office projected the cumulative shortfall from 2011 through 2015 would be $164 billion.

http://factcheck.org/2012/11/durbin-again-denies-social-securitys-red-ink/

The even bigger joke here is that this is all diversion by liberals. Social Security isn't even the big "dog" here. It's Medicare by far, and no one that I've seen can play word games to claim Medicare doesn't contribute to the deficit. Or do you know one?

I already posted my links. Isn't it convenient that you only believe in "factcheck" if it sort of proves your point--and the rest of the time it's a "lefty/libtard source not to be believed..." I stand by the links I've already posted.

LadyJazzer wrote: I already posted my links. Isn't it convenient that you only believe in "factcheck" if it sort of proves your point--and the rest of the time it's a "lefty/libtard source not to be believed..." I stand by the links I've already posted.

What links have you posted? I know you won't tell me because you've pulled this same crap before. You made a statement that Social Secuity does not contribute to the deficit/debt. Prove it.

And no, you won't find a post from me claiming factcheck was wrong other than maybe asking a question about a specific article. Do you want a discussion, or do you want to keep making stuff up?