spineless politicians or soulless immoral Americans?

03 Jan 2013 09:56 #51 by FredHayek
Those are actual facts of life under Obama that you just aren't willing to admit to. A stronger, more capable President would have brought down unemployment. All he has done is increase debt to record levels with no reduction in unemployment.
His stimulus was stillborn.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Jan 2013 10:05 #52 by LadyJazzer

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03 Jan 2013 10:12 #53 by archer
Hmmmm....by using Fred's logic, if I push Fred down a flight of stairs it's his fault that he fell, and I am blameless even though I pushed him.

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03 Jan 2013 10:20 #54 by LadyJazzer

archer wrote: Hmmmm....by using Fred's logic, if I push Fred down a flight of stairs it's his fault that he fell, and I am blameless even though I pushed him.


And actually, the fall down the flight of stairs never actually happened---and if it did, it was the fault of the person who came along next....

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03 Jan 2013 10:23 #55 by FredHayek

archer wrote: Hmmmm....by using Fred's logic, if I push Fred down a flight of stairs it's his fault that he fell, and I am blameless even though I pushed him.


Irony? The people who think goverment does the most good aren't willing to admit when their goverment isn't doing its job.

Now America is on the Euro model where 1-2% growth is success and 7-15% unemployment is the new normal.

But HuffPo won't talk about that, will they?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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03 Jan 2013 12:15 #56 by ScienceChic
I even find this review too be too one-sided. Making drastic cuts is not a bad thing when you consider what even the Green party would like the government to provide (I think they go too far). But this does make the excellent point that yet again, we were sold out bipartisan-ally. There's too much that favors corporations and not enough that takes care of the citizens or this country as a whole, to keep us financially healthy. Ugh, I'm losing hope that we'll be able to fix anything without significant painful changes to our way of life as we know it.

STEIN: Bipartisan fiscal scam lays groundwork for austerity
Posted by Jill Stein 2109pc on January 03, 2013

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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03 Jan 2013 12:38 #57 by FredHayek
Good point SC, the Dem Party is handing out as much corporate cash as the GOP.

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03 Jan 2013 18:03 #58 by Blazer Bob

Science Chic wrote: . Ugh, I'm losing hope that we'll be able to fix anything without significant painful changes to our way of life as we know it.

STEIN: Bipartisan fiscal scam lays groundwork for austerity
Posted by Jill Stein 2109pc on January 03, 2013



? I thought you had passed that milestone sometime ago.

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03 Jan 2013 18:04 #59 by Blazer Bob

FredHayek wrote: Good point SC, the Dem Party is handing out as much corporate cash as the GOP.


More, but only because they can.

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