Boston Bombers ID'ed - Not White Tea Party members

19 Apr 2013 07:48 #21 by FredHayek
Personally these moles I find scary. Living among us for years but something sets them off one day. The dead brother was a two year medical student. Why give that up to bomb Americans?

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19 Apr 2013 07:49 #22 by FredHayek
More than these two? Russian nationals captured in Niagra Falls with a bomb.

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19 Apr 2013 08:02 #23 by Reverend Revelant

FredHayek wrote: More than these two? Russian nationals captured in Niagra Falls with a bomb.


That was a phony twitter feed... Fred... do you EVER do any research before you make a statement?

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19 Apr 2013 08:06 #24 by Rick

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

FredHayek wrote: More than these two? Russian nationals captured in Niagra Falls with a bomb.


That was a phony twitter feed... Fred... do you EVER do any research before you make a statement?

lol sorry Fred, but he is right.

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19 Apr 2013 08:15 #25 by jf1acai
A rather over simplified explanation, but hopefully it will provide the information you are looking for:

There are multiple ways that dispatch can patch frequencies/talk groups from different agencies together. However, doing so in a large incident such as this also runs the risk of having too many people trying to use the same frequency/talk group at the same time, resulting in chaos.

A better approach, and what is usually used in large incidents, is to utlize one frequency/talk group as a command frequency, available to the commanders only of each agency/task group, and used to coordinate among the agencies/task groups. Other frequencies/talk groups may then be patched together for specific purposes to allow multiple agencies that are working on the same task to talk together, while keeping the communications related to other tasks isolated to their own frequencies/talk groups.

These patches can be made whether the individual agencies normally use digital trunked systems or straight VHF/UHF.

Adding encryption into the mix significantly increases the complexity, and with that the possibility of failed communications. Encryption may well be used for task groups which involve agencies that regularly work together and have planned and trained for this purpose, but it is difficult to add another agency that is not normally part of the group on the fly during an incident.

Hope that is helpful.

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19 Apr 2013 08:18 #26 by Reverend Revelant

jf1acai wrote: A rather over simplified explanation, but hopefully it will provide the information you are looking for:

There are multiple ways that dispatch can patch frequencies/talk groups from different agencies together. However, doing so in a large incident such as this also runs the risk of having too many people trying to use the same frequency/talk group at the same time, resulting in chaos.

A better approach, and what is usually used in large incidents, is to utlize one frequency/talk group as a command frequency, available to the commanders only of each agency/task group, and used to coordinate among the agencies/task groups. Other frequencies/talk groups may then be patched together for specific purposes to allow multiple agencies that are working on the same task to talk together, while keeping the communications related to other tasks isolated to their own frequencies/talk groups.

These patches can be made whether the individual agencies normally use digital trunked systems or straight VHF/UHF.

Adding encryption into the mix significantly increases the complexity, and with that the possibility of failed communications. Encryption may well be used for task groups which involve agencies that regularly work together and have planned and trained for this purpose, but it is difficult to add another agency that is not normally part of the group on the fly during an incident.

Hope that is helpful.


What he/she said. Thanks...

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19 Apr 2013 08:21 #27 by Reverend Revelant

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frogger wrote: i am still waiting to connect. Radio Reference shows more that 150,000 connects at the moment.
I suspect they are just slammed


Try this...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam


This feed has been steady... but I don't think this guys scanner has as many frequencies programed into his radio as the first feed I linked to... I'm not hearing as much tactical info coming over this feed. It's better than nothing.

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19 Apr 2013 08:26 #28 by FredHayek

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

FredHayek wrote: More than these two? Russian nationals captured in Niagra Falls with a bomb.


That was a phony twitter feed... Fred... do you EVER do any research before you make a statement?


It was on KOA/Fox so they didn't vet their source either.

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19 Apr 2013 08:32 #29 by Reverend Revelant

FredHayek wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

FredHayek wrote: More than these two? Russian nationals captured in Niagra Falls with a bomb.


That was a phony twitter feed... Fred... do you EVER do any research before you make a statement?


It was on KOA/Fox so they didn't vet their source either.


Evidently Rick's and my sources are much better than KOA and Fox.

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19 Apr 2013 08:42 #30 by FOS
It could be that they have settled in on certain tactical strategies. I can't get in at all so keep us posted.
Even in a major fire situation here, once they have developed a certain plan of attack.....the scanners go pretty quiet. Often they will move secondary traffic to another frequency that is unavailable to the public.

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