Common Sense Abortion Laws?

And the point is STILL that IT'S NONE OF THE G*DAM* GOVERNMENT'S or ANY POLITICIAN'S BUSINESS to involve themselves in that decision. That's between a woman and her doctor... And the rest can p*ss off...

LadyJazzer wrote: And the point is STILL that IT'S NONE OF THE G*DAM* GOVERNMENT'S or ANY POLITICIAN'S BUSINESS to involve themselves in that decision. That's between a woman and her doctor... And the rest can p*ss off...

And those unborn "things" growing inside the women can piss off too... none of their business either.

FYI...



Abortion Poll Finds Support For 20-Week Ban
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/1 ... 75551.html

There is also strong support for immigration reform, but that doesn't mean we will get it.

Gallup June-July 2013 88% of Americans support allowing immigrants to become citizens 83% of conservatives support allowing immigrants to become citizens

http://americasvoiceonline.org/polling/

archer wrote: There is also strong support for immigration reform, but that doesn't mean we will get it.

Gallup June-July 2013 88% of Americans support allowing immigrants to become citizens 83% of conservatives support allowing immigrants to become citizens

http://americasvoiceonline.org/polling/

You're deflections are getting less and less vague.

Walter L Newton wrote:

archer wrote: There is also strong support for immigration reform, but that doesn't mean we will get it.

Gallup June-July 2013 88% of Americans support allowing immigrants to become citizens 83% of conservatives support allowing immigrants to become citizens

http://americasvoiceonline.org/polling/

You're deflections are getting less and less vague.

I learned how to do it from you and Fred....however.....when did you start believing that polls run the country? Polls don't trump the law, and laws that are passed that violate the constitution don't stand....Most Americans would probably love to see income tax disappear.....but that too won't happen.

archer wrote:

Walter L Newton wrote:

archer wrote: There is also strong support for immigration reform, but that doesn't mean we will get it.

Gallup June-July 2013 88% of Americans support allowing immigrants to become citizens 83% of conservatives support allowing immigrants to become citizens

http://americasvoiceonline.org/polling/

You're deflections are getting less and less vague.

I learned how to do it from you and Fred....however.....when did you start believing that polls run the country? Polls don't trump the law, and laws that are passed that violate the constitution don't stand....Most Americans would probably love to see income tax disappear.....but that too won't happen.

And a Supreme Court decision doesn't necessarily mean it's a good decision either... do you not agree?

LadyJazzer wrote: And the point is STILL that IT'S NONE OF THE G*DAM* GOVERNMENT'S or ANY POLITICIAN'S BUSINESS to involve themselves in that decision. That's between a woman and her doctor... And the rest can p*ss off...

The world isn't black and white, it is differing shades of grey. So you are fine with a doctor and patient conspiring to kill a fetus, but not fine with the expectant mother doing heroin? The heroin does less harm to the fetus.

Response: Two Legs Bad, Four Legs Good.

homeagain wrote: There is NO common sense when abortion is the topic.......it will NEVER be a topic that does NOT elicit strong beliefs.....most
females see the issue as "their body" and most males see the issue as "murder".....(JMO.....I know there are exceptions to this
statement,but, in the MACRO view the woman carries the "burden"/life/responsibilty and IF she is NOT in a financially secure place,
and surrounded with support, OTHER options are deemed necessary....JMO

I agree with you here home, and your post is a prime example of it. You've swallowed the fallacious "War on Women" meme. It isn't a gender divided issue at all, it's a right to life issue, always has been. Those who support the destruction of human life in the womb, regardless of gender, view it through the prism of it's a woman's body. Those who oppose the destruction of human life in the womb oppose it because it is destruction of a human life. 75% of the victims of abortion are female. Half of those whose lives are destroyed and all of the women who choose to destroy the life they helped create.

There are instances, rare compared to current numbers, where it is necessary to defend one life by the destruction of another. There are instances, again rare compared to current numbers, where prohibiting the destruction of that life can be construed as a continuation of an earlier assault perpetrated upon the woman.

The vast majority, well over 90%, perhaps even higher than 95%, of the instances where that human life is destroyed, however, are not instances where the woman's life is in danger or she is the victim of an assault. Those human lives are destroyed simply because they are viewed as sub-humans who have no right to the life they are living. Boiled down to its pure essence, those who support the unlimited and unrestricted destruction of human life in the womb believe that one life was created endowed with an inalienable right to life and the other was not.

LadyJazzer wrote: And the point is STILL that IT'S NONE OF THE G*DAM* GOVERNMENT'S or ANY POLITICIAN'S BUSINESS to involve themselves in that decision. That's between a woman and her doctor... And the rest can p*ss off...

Your premise is flawed, which is why your conclusion is also flawed. Society does have an interest in ensuring that the inalienable rights we were endowed with upon our creation are protected. That is actually one of the legitimate interests of our various levels of republican governments established by the Constitution and it might be argued that it is the sole legitimate purpose of under our system of governance.

The views of the populace are evolving Jazzy, and not just in the realm of homosexual unions as the poll Walter shared with us shows. Are you going to evolve with the rest of us or stubbornly refuse to move forward with the times?