I have heard about common sense gun laws like universal background checks and a waiting period to buy guns.
How about the new Texas legislation being voted on, bringing abortion clinic standards up to regular health standards to eliminate horror shows like Kermit Gosnell's facility and also a ban on abortions after 20 weeks. Do these sound reasonable?
Already a dozen US states have the limit on 20 week abortions, as does most of western Europe. And making sure women get their abortions in clean and sterile facilities sounds like a real no brainer.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
"Abortion" and "common sense" are rarely used in the same sentence.
As for common sense abortion laws, it's all subjective right? If it's ok to abort a human life at 26 weeks, what difference does it make if it's 27, 29, or 33 weeks? The victim of the abortion gets to enjoy the same fate.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Gee, is this the once-a-year when you suddenly show concern over "sterile facilities" like you suddenly care about "aborting black babies" once-a-year on the anniversary of Roe V. Wade?
Some would prohibit men from getting vasectomies, such as Georgia's , which states:
"Thousands of children are deprived of birth in this state every year because of the lack of state regulation over vasectomies."
Others, like an amendment proposed by Oklahoma State Sen. , restrict where a man can ejaculate, effectively outlawing all manner of sexual acts. The amendment :
"Any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman's vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child."
And Ohio State Sen. recently put forward legislation that would require men seeking drugs like Viagra to first get a cardiac stress test to ensure their heart is ready for sexual activity. Oh, and they would also have to obtain certification from one of their recent sexual partners that they are indeed experiencing problems with erectile dysfunction. And they would be required to see a sex therapist before getting a prescription.
The bill :
"The physician shall ensure that the sessions include information on nonpharmaceutical treatments for erectile dysfunction, including sexual counseling and resources for patients to pursue celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice."
Turner says society has been programmed to accept the idea that legislators can regulate a woman's ability to obtain contraception or get a safe abortion. "We don't see anything wrong with it because that's the way we've been socialized," she told Shots. But now that the tables are turning and the focus is on men's reproductive health, people think it's strange, she said.
I think it's absolutely appropriate for men's reproductive health issues to be put up for a vote, don't you?...Preferably in committees that are made up exclusively of women..... :thumbsup:
As you guys constantly debate on how to restrict people to suit your desires, you are working towards an end result that has no wiggle room for anyone on any subject.
How about these common sense rules...
"If you are an adult, you decide for yourself about your penis, ejaculate or your parasite."
another simple rule to reinforce things.
"Children are the possession of their parents and thus parents can make all decisions related to their children, before and after birth."
and perhaps another...
I bet if we had our real family histories, all of us would have abortions and child killings in our family within 5 back generations. Done for the same reason it is almost always done...lack of resources to take care of the kid the way you desire....and since just about no one else will care for the kid properly (anyone who has spent lots of time as a foster kid, please speak up), I say if the parent does not want it, they can do as they see fit.
We are talking about a child, a child is raised by a parent, parents or family members....and will never be raised properly by public policy. Nothing happens well with public policy and debate (or lack there of).
LJ could not even address the topic at hand...or perhaps she did not need to. Implied in her answer was that she agrees with me. Abortion at any time, for any reason is the parents prerogative. For this particular topic and perhaps this being the only one, it is none of the gubmts buziness.
I support abortion rights. Why should someone be required to bear a child they don't want, but so far I haven't found a good argument to defend 3rd trimester abortions.
Especially in these days of easy access to Plan B.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
I don't see much reason for a third-trimester abortion either, unless the fetus has become unviable, deformed or the life of the mother is in danger... Third trimester abortions are rarely done for the simple purpose of "birth-control", and if they are it's because the knuckle-draggers have made it virtually impossible for someone who is poor to get the services they needed before it reached the third trimester. You want to stop abortions?...Provide safe, effective, AFFORDABLE birth-control... Duh!
What I also don't see is that it is ANY BUSINESS of "da Gubm'nt", or a bunch of anti-abortion male lawmakers to get between the woman and her doctor in making such a decision.
Until that time, I STILL think it's absolutely appropriate for men's reproductive health issues to be put up for a vote, don't you?...Preferably in committees that are made up exclusively of women..... :thumbsup:
on that note wrote:
LJ could not even address the topic at hand...or perhaps she did not need to. Implied in her answer was that she agrees with me. Abortion at any time, for any reason is the parents prerogative. For this particular topic and perhaps this being the only one, it is none of the gubmts buziness.
Seriously? So as long as you create the life it's your "right" to do whatever you want with that life whenever you feel like it. My, how far some people have "evolved"... morality based on nothing more than self interests is pretty f@#kin sick. Oh well, at least you're in good company right?
And this new men's health comparison of LJ's is a weak deflection. Men don't have the "right" to destroy a human life PERIOD.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Judge Blocks New Wisconsin Abortion Law Wisconsin Abortion Law Signed By Gov. Scott Walker Blocked By Judge
MADISON, Wis. — A federal judge issued a temporary restraining order Monday evening to block enforcement of a new Wisconsin law that bans doctors who lack admitting privileges at nearby hospitals from performing abortions.
U.S. District Judge William Conley granted the order following a hearing in a lawsuit filed Friday by Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin and Affiliated Medical Services. It alleged the requirement would unconstitutionally restrict the availability of abortions in the state, violates the U.S. Constitution's due process guarantee and unconstitutionally treats doctors who perform abortions differently from those who perform other procedures.
The restraining order will remain in place pending a fuller hearing July 17. In his ruling, Conley said "there is a troubling lack of justification for the hospital admitting privileges requirement." He said the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that states must prove that restrictions on abortion rights must be reasonably aimed at preserving the mother's health.
"Moreover, the record to date strongly supports a finding that no medical purpose is served by this requirement," he said.
Isn't it fascinating that all of these Republican Governors and their Republican-controlled legislatures are dealing with abortion issues by sneaking them into various bills and budgets with NO public discussion? I guess they aren't quite so sure that they have the public support that they think they have. They must be scared or ashamed to talk about it publicly, since they have to resort to hiding and trickery to get it through... And isn't it also fascinating that as quickly as they ram it through, it's going to get challenged in court and likely thrown out as being unconstitutional....
Watch for a LOT of these teabagger governors and their right-wing legislatures to go down in the next few elections... They're running out of old, angry white guys....
