CU: Freedom Of Speech For All?

05 Sep 2013 08:04 #11 by The Boss

FredHayek wrote: Per the Boulder Camera and reported by KOA, CU-Boulder is thinking about making it illegal for people to discriminate against those with conservative, political views.

lol But they way they are proposing this makes it seem like they are grouping Republicans with transexuals and Druids.

Do you think the Regent's idea is a good one? Do political conservatives need to be protected against discrimination in hiring and lodging?

Sidebar: Would you also support major colleges grouping people of the same faith in the same dormitories or floors? In my Catholic university, only freshman women were segregated in dorms. Muslims, Athiests, Catholics and even Protestants were allowed to live together.


It should be legal to be mean, people are going to do it anyway.

Your political party is very much like your religion at this point. People follow it without critical thought, these are groups that proceed with an agenda based on their leaders without understanding it based on faith. Given this and our culture, people should have the same childish protections they have with religion. You must protect the children from people with more brain power than them. People in political parties and religions have to be sheltered or they may start questioning their own group. We must discourage critical thought.

This is the same reason that Asian country is not letting people post about current events on social media, only person info. It is about keeping people from questioning things.

Now if this college was run by federal congress, well then the constitution would restrict them from restricting others in what they say, but I don't think the state makes the same commitment for free speech, I think the state can shut you up.

Maybe it is just to keep the LJbot off campus. Seems like such a rule would turn half her posts into hate speech. Given that, if such a rule is made, and someone goes to MyMountainTown and read one of her posts on campus, meaning that she posted conservative hate on campus, could she be punished?

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05 Sep 2013 08:27 #12 by archer

RenegadeCJ wrote:

archer wrote: Cool.... Affirmative action for conservatives.


So you disagree that college should be a place for people to learn all different perspectives, and not just be spoon fed liberalism?

Huh? How do you get that I from what I posted?

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05 Sep 2013 08:43 - 05 Sep 2013 16:00 #13 by UNDER MODERATION
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:rofllol

You'll never find conservative professors because college professors are usually intelligent people who are aware of American and world history..Its like saying we need more religious scientists..Its ridiculous..

Its just like saying, we need stupid and ignorant scientists who believe in fairy tales


PS- And didn't CU just Tar n Feather a professor for saying that 911 was the result of our barbaric foreign policies when clearly 911 was the result of our barbaric foreign policies?

Where was his freedom of speech?

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05 Sep 2013 08:58 - 05 Sep 2013 09:03 #14 by The Boss
Funny VL,

I am sure all the liberal art professors lean to the left, just like most of the economics or practical professors likely lean right or towards liberty (far from left or right).

Remember, these are all public employees, so in general they are paid to lean left and not be productive. They are paid to promote themselves. They are part of the biggest scam where undergrads finance their fluff lifestyle and the research that benefits the largest companies.

At this point most of the professors I interact with are those that that also have businesses. They are certainly not left. They want the freedom to run their businesses.

Funny, most of the Science professors I have met out West believe strongly in god, just saying, you brought up ignorant scientists....they are certainly there. And anyone who spends time with professors know they are part of the social elite that feel that they have the right to allocate other people's resources and often think quite negatively of those without education. Professors on average think of those without an education, even those more productive than them, the same way I think about employees, as cute little entities that need a leg up.

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05 Sep 2013 09:01 #15 by FredHayek

Vice Lord wrote: :rofllol

You'll never find conservative professors because college professors are usually intelligent people who are aware of American and world history..Its like saying we need more religious scientists..Its ridiculous..

Its just like saying, we need stupid and ignorant scientists who believe in fairy tales


PS- And didn't CU just Tar n Feather and run a professor out of town for saying that 911 was the result of our barbaric foreign policies when clearly 911 occured because of our barbaric foreign policies?

Where was his freedom of speech?


Once again VL is wrong. I had conservative professors in my college, business people who had made their fortunes and wanted to give back to the community. I also had avowed Marxist professors.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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05 Sep 2013 09:08 - 05 Sep 2013 09:11 #16 by UNDER MODERATION
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Yeah...We need some dumb and ignorant professor at CU

Do you retards really think that most of what public state Universities teach is opinion? Its 99.9% facts and once someone learns the facts...Its really hard to un ring that bell.

So youre never going to get ignorant people to reach professor status- They might start out ignorant like you, but then they get educated


#Duhhuh

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05 Sep 2013 09:09 #17 by UNDER MODERATION
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FredHayek wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: :rofllol

You'll never find conservative professors because college professors are usually intelligent people who are aware of American and world history..Its like saying we need more religious scientists..Its ridiculous..

Its just like saying, we need stupid and ignorant scientists who believe in fairy tales


PS- And didn't CU just Tar n Feather and run a professor out of town for saying that 911 was the result of our barbaric foreign policies when clearly 911 occured because of our barbaric foreign policies?

Where was his freedom of speech?


Once again VL is wrong. I had conservative professors in my college, business people who had made their fortunes and wanted to give back to the community. I also had avowed Marxist professors.



So then why are you (Fred, on that note) always complaining about higher education being dominated "liberal proffesers!"

:rofllol

#Whichisit?

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05 Sep 2013 09:28 #18 by ScienceChic
Professors and scientists run the gamut on beliefs, ideals, and backgrounds, there is no basis to stereotype them, or consider them "elitists". on that note is correct in that most scientists do believe in God.

However this statement "Professors on average think of those without an education, even those more productive than them, the same way I think about employees, as cute little entities that need a leg up." seems to imply that they are arrogant elitists, which I'm not sure that's how on that note meant it, but I didn't encounter that arrogant attitude from professors I interacted with, whether in science or not. Yes, they want everyone to be more educated, like they are, just as it's human nature to want someone to be more like you, but not because they considered them inferior. Disadvantaged, maybe; lesser beings, no.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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05 Sep 2013 10:01 #19 by FredHayek

Vice Lord wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: :rofllol

You'll never find conservative professors because college professors are usually intelligent people who are aware of American and world history..Its like saying we need more religious scientists..Its ridiculous..

Its just like saying, we need stupid and ignorant scientists who believe in fairy tales


PS- And didn't CU just Tar n Feather and run a professor out of town for saying that 911 was the result of our barbaric foreign policies when clearly 911 occured because of our barbaric foreign policies?

Where was his freedom of speech?


Once again VL is wrong. I had conservative professors in my college, business people who had made their fortunes and wanted to give back to the community. I also had avowed Marxist professors.



So then why are you (Fred, on that note) always complaining about higher education being dominated "liberal proffesers!"

:rofllol

#Whichisit?

Colleges and universities are dominated by liberal educators, even in my business classes. But most smart universities try to have a balanced talent pool. But biases exist, if you are a liberal professor, you would just naturally, maybe even subconciously, hire for your TA's people who agree with you. And same deal when you are interviewing new hires for your department.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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05 Sep 2013 10:51 #20 by Something the Dog Said
Rather than create special rights for conservatives, would it not better to simply make it a policy that politics will not be considered in hiring of employees at government institutions?

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