Presumably those who think it is a good law . . . the rest of us should find ways to ensure that it falls flat on its face.
Either that or we should be looking to use this brand new power granted Congress by the Supreme Court to compel everyone to purchase a million dollars worth of life insurance and at least double that in disability insurance so that the Ponzi based Social Security scheme will no longer have to offer these "benefits", which might actually result in fiscal health for that program without raising anyone's taxes or subjecting more of their income to being taxed to prop up the scheme. Sure, the young folks will have to pay about double what they are now for a $1 Million policy, but the older folks, like me, will be able to purchase it for a lot less than we can now, just like the older folks are going to be able to purchase health insurance for less now that the young are subsidizing their costs by paying higher premiums than they otherwise would.
I'm sure we could get the insurance companies to sign onto that one as well, don't you think?
PrintSmith wrote: As for me, I am leaning towards paying the tax that is offered as an alternative to participating in the forced commerce of the Democrats choosing; commerce that I voluntarily participated in prior to the passage of this law. It has freed me from the necessity of being continually insured to obtain coverage for when I fall ill. The emergency rooms will still have to treat me regardless of my ability to pay should I suffer a life threatening condition and I can obtain insurance for any condition I may contract while uninsured. Paying the $95 tax will allow me to save over $400 a month to cover the occasional office visit to a GP and I can use those funds to enlarge my retirement contributions, while I am healthy and working.
Think I won't be able to get covered if I get sick until the next "enrollment period"? Think again. All I need do is start a new job. Whoever insures the employees there will not be able to exclude me from coverage because of my pre-existing condition. That is one of the many options affoded to me under the law. Even if I lose the job because of my illness, I will have quite a bankroll to pay the insurance premiums saved up from the years of savings from not purchasing insurance. And the insurance company will not be able to charge me a single dime more for coverage either because of the community ratings provisions in the law. I will be paying the exact same premium that I would have been paying if I had been paying premiums for years instead of paying no premiums at all. Ain't this a great country?
The emergency room will treat you but they will charge you and go after that money unless you don't have any money. If you have money, they'll take it away until no more is left, and then it's "free".
The penalty for an individual is $95 or 1% of you modified adjusted gross income, whichever is greater. So it can cost a lot if you make a lot, and it will go up to 2.5% in the future. It's basicly a tax rate increase. The IRS can't enforce it, though, by going after your wages or bank account. They can only withhold it from any refund due. But I'm sure they'll remember what you owe for years to come.
If you are uninsured then I guess you could get insurance outside the enrollment period by getting a new job which offers insurance. But that would be hard to do if you just had a major accident. Maybe it would work if you had a significant illness which isn't obvious. Anyway you'd still have to wait awhile to find a job and start the job. And finding a job would of been a solution for the uninsured before Obamacare as well, so I don't see a change there (some companies had a waiting period before insurance starts, maybe that's changed?).
There is also the option of moving to another state which is probably easier to do than getting a job right away. In that case you can also get insurance outside of the enrollment period, but I don't know if there are any special rules like wait times.
Looks like it will fall flat on its face w/o our doing anything. The current hot patches will bring the website to a standstill as it crashes. And if for some reason they get all the glitches fixed, which they won't, then there is the problem of more bad code where patients won't get credit for the subsidies, etc. The most beautiful nightmare we could hope for if you ignore how much we as taxpayers are paying for this fiasco.
PrintSmith wrote: Presumably those who think it is a good law . . . the rest of us should find ways to ensure that it falls flat on its face.
Either that or we should be looking to use this brand new power granted Congress by the Supreme Court to compel everyone to purchase a million dollars worth of life insurance and at least double that in disability insurance so that the Ponzi based Social Security scheme will no longer have to offer these "benefits", which might actually result in fiscal health for that program without raising anyone's taxes or subjecting more of their income to being taxed to prop up the scheme. Sure, the young folks will have to pay about double what they are now for a $1 Million policy, but the older folks, like me, will be able to purchase it for a lot less than we can now, just like the older folks are going to be able to purchase health insurance for less now that the young are subsidizing their costs by paying higher premiums than they otherwise would.
I'm sure we could get the insurance companies to sign onto that one as well, don't you think?
I would expect nothing less from the "Sovereign Citizen"... I can only hope that the price of refusal to obey the law gets to be such a hassle, and costly in the long run, that it ends up costing him MUCH more in the scheme of things...
LadyJazzer wrote: I would expect nothing less from the "Sovereign Citizen"... I can only hope that the price of refusal to obey the law gets to be such a hassle, and costly in the long run, that it ends up costing him MUCH more in the scheme of things...
PLEASE, jus' keep doin' what yer doin', PS....
The cost of Obama's signature law will cost him his precious legacy. What the majority of the population will remember is that he was unable to deliver on jobs, the economy, and the debt AND he made health care much more expensive for those who have to pay for it.
So in that respect, I really can't hope he keeps "doin what he's doin", because we can't afford it anymore.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
pineinthegrass wrote: The emergency room will treat you but they will charge you and go after that money unless you don't have any money. If you have money, they'll take it away until no more is left, and then it's "free".
Very true and mostly misunderstood by the lo fos.
Insurance is necessary for people with assets and money. Lots of people find out the hard way when liens are placed on their homes, or credit is ruined. And the emergency room rates are anywhere from 0 to infinity, no rhyme or reason involved.
If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2
Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.
