I believe that allowing people to essentially break the law, and accommodate their actions because it's easier than fighting them, just perpetuates the problem. I do believe that discrimination is against the law. yeah, that's my opinion.
Rick wrote: If I was gay and found out a baker didn't want to bake my gay wedding cake, I wouldn't even consider letting them make my cake at that point. I would spread the word in any way I could through social media, google/yahoo reviews, and possibly even picket the store if I felt that strongly about it. In business, bad feedback spreads like wildfire, so refusing anybody service is never a good way to grow a business.
Now all that said, I also don't believe the gov't should force a private business to do something they are ideologically against. If the baker was some kind of anti-war crusader and some marine came in wanting a cake covered in guns and soldiers, I wouldn't expect the baker to be forced to make that cake either.
As far as I know, there is no monopoly on cake baking so I'm sure there's dozens of other bakers who would love to make this couple's cake and would probably do a much better job than someone who is against gay marriage.
archer wrote: I believe that allowing people to essentially break the law, and accommodate their actions because it's easier than fighting them, just perpetuates the problem. I do believe that discrimination is against the law. yeah, that's my opinion.
I agree completely. The law WAS broken, and I guess the couple decided NOT to "accommodate their actions."
“At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses,” Judge Spencer said in his written order. “This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are.”
The baker is not the only baker in the Denver area (there's at least 13 businesses in Lakewood, alone). There would be no cost to society if they simply went somewhere else.
I think there's a cost to society when someone is compelled to do something that is against their values.
I'm thinking I'll go find a PETA baker and ask them to make a hunting theme cake for me.
The Baker just needs to add gay wedding cakes to his price list at a cost of $5,000.
Can a judge mandate what he charges for cakes?
Safeway bakery would not decorate a bachelorette party theme cake with a penis. The cakes are kept in back in a cooler where shoppers can't see them Can they be sued?
I think after all the hubbub, the couple prolly got a cake for free from a baker that was just as good if not better.
Good for them.
I believe if you advertise a service or product to the general public, then anyone in the general public should be able to buy It.
The baker did not refuse to sell anything to the individual(s), he refused to sell a specific product which he believed to be inappropriate in the circumstances.
If a tire dealer refuses to sell/install studded tires on the front wheels only of a front wheel drive vehicle because he believes this is unsafe, should the government force him to sell/install them anyway?
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again - Jeanne Pincha-Tulley
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You're reaching jf1acai, there are probably better analogies out there. Like refusing to sell an ice cream float to a fat person. Or refusing to sell a men's sweater to a woman. Our how about a restaurant manager who thinks African Americans shouldn't eat in the main dining room. Maybe refusing to rent an apartment to an African American because you don't believe they should be allowed to live in white neighborhoods. Oh wait, that's illegal isn't it?
