ACA (Obamacare) updates for 2014

06 Feb 2014 07:46 #71 by FredHayek
I read that about Wendy Davis this morning. I wonder how her out of state donors feel about this.
Emmitt Smith, former Dallas Cowboy, must be fine with it. He gave her campaign $20,000.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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06 Feb 2014 07:53 #72 by Reverend Revelant

netdude wrote:
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I rarely come here anymore, not because it is a right wind circle jerk with the Rev as the pivot man...

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Oh sweetie... you give me too much credit. And I corrected you ellipses above... it's suppose to be three periods, not two. Don't thank me.

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06 Feb 2014 08:33 #73 by Rick
Just a little history lesson....

netdude wrote: To be honest, we need to start to come together.... not sure how that happens but it's not by blasting each other, calling each other names and denigrating each others ideologies.
Can we start having open and functional discussions? I hope so... lets try not hating but try talking to each other like neighbors who disagree, that is what we can do. You guys don't hate this country neither does LJ and others on the left.

netdude wrote: YOU may actually care, I don't know, from what you present herein this forum I highly doubt it. You are a ugly little man with a real axe to grind for some f**ked up reason...

But, I feel bad for you for you must be one empty mother f'er, real ugly inside and yes, that is a sad thing to have to live with day in and day out.

So, I have pity for you, siting in some ugly place thinking oh this is the most I can be, sitting back and attacking everyone that does not think like you..... well, It's a WONDERFUL thing that more people don't. This would REALLY be a f'ed up place if more of our neighbors were more like you, thank god they aren't.

So Merry Christmas, and I hope to god you find some heart buried in that little cowardly soul of yours
so you can find SOME joy in something besides hating people that are not like you.

BTW.... my link was more meant for the OP and Outhouse338 than your useless ass..... you are just that, useless and nothing to contribute to the board, the community and frankly this world....

So, I will go back to enjoying my liberal/socialistic world that resides outside of this ugly place.... it use to be a nice place until you came here. So something I don't like to do is hit 'ignore' but for you it will be a pleasure and maybe I'll see 285Bound in a better light.... or just leave it be as it is, Dr.Phil's house of hate.

AMF'er!

netdude wrote: Would not be that far out of line for a few of the R's who post here.

Florida House candidate Joshua Black calls for hanging of President Obama

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/f ... ma/2161944

netdude wrote: You have one the most dead brains on this board, your a ideagog to the 9th degree... So your hollow claims ring partisan and impotent, you sh** ignorance in an echo chamber of ideology and call it dedication to your kids... If you really care... Look at something besides your rw blogs and. Find facts, Thomas.lic.gov. Non partisan fact checkers.... If you really care about your kids, put down your ignorance and at least TRY to find the truth. To be honest, I know you won't..... You will continue to wallow in this muddy hate you have for President Obama... Idiot.

netdude wrote: All you have here now is people trying to punish and shout-out everyone that is outside their ideological scope of what they support, and the groupthink hate of man who happens to be president yet not of their kind.

Carry on with your vitriolic hatefest!


Hating the ideology or hating the person?

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

George Orwell

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06 Feb 2014 09:06 #74 by archer
Pot/kettle........ Black. Take a good look at your own posts lately, and those of others who share your political ideology, This is an unfriendly place for liberals, kudos to netdude for wading into the muck here.

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06 Feb 2014 09:14 #75 by FredHayek

archer wrote: Pot/kettle........ Black. Take a good look at your own posts lately, and those of others who share your political ideology, This is an unfriendly place for liberals, kudos to netdude for wading into the muck here.


Why so angry Archer? Your side won on ACA. Despite Dem senators campaigning against it, Obamacare will continue, even if the Republicans somehow get the White House in 2016. America will continue the wealth redistribution of giving subsidized healthcare to people who can't afford it and making the people who can afford it also pay for the healthcare of both their own families but other families.
But will more people choose to slip below the subsidy line so they get subsidized instead of subsidizing others?
:clap:
Bravo Obama.
Penalize those working overtime and subsidize those who don't go back to work after lunch.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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06 Feb 2014 09:17 #76 by Rick

archer wrote: Pot/kettle........ Black. Take a good look at your own posts lately, and those of others who share your political ideology, This is an unfriendly place for liberals, kudos to netdude for wading into the muck here.

Look at this thread from start to finish archer, we are not hating on any person, we are hating a law that we feel is imploding. Is that wrong to hate a law, a policy, an ideology? Netdude keeps bringing up this hate stuff and telling us all we hate people, give me that evidence and you have a point. You probably hated much of what Bush did, but do you hate GWB the man? You may hate the ideology of your neighbors, but do you hate those neighbors? That is the point I'm attempting to make, but I obviously missed the mark.

And I strongly disagree that this is an unfriendly place for liberals. I believe it has more to do with liberals not having much to brag about these days as much of what is happening in our government is failing. And if you don't believe these topics are about failure, just give your own reasons why. This place should be more about debating what's happening and not debating who hates who, which is something my kids used to do before they grew up.

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

George Orwell

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06 Feb 2014 09:46 #77 by archer
It's OK rick, I didn't expect you would see this from a different perspective.

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06 Feb 2014 09:52 #78 by archer
I'm not angry Fred, I don't engage much here anymore, but I do read, and I do see what is going on in the courthouse threads..... If you can't see the fact that many, possibly most, liberals here have drifted away then no problem, enjoy talking to each other.

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06 Feb 2014 09:58 #79 by Reverend Revelant

archer wrote: It's OK rick, I didn't expect you would see this from a different perspective.


Rick asked "And if you don't believe these topics are about failure, just give your own reasons why."

And I didn't expect you would give Rick a debatable answer to his question. The left can't answer these questions. You can't answer these questions. The whole thing is blowing up in their faces and a multitude of people on the left are either slinking away quietly or outright speaking out against the outcomes they are already seeing about ACA.

And it's not over yet. Wait until the employers have to start figuring out how to pay for this, and how their employees will be impacted, and how people won't be able to keep their policies, or their doctors or get the same care they were getting before (check out articles on Covered California).

Screaming hate and racist is all you have left. And that little tactic is starting to blow up in your faces. It ain't flying anymore. Unless all those folks who gave Obama and Obamacare favorable ratings in the past have now suddenly become haters and racists.

The numbers and facts don't lie, even though some on the left continue to do so.

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06 Feb 2014 10:01 #80 by Reverend Revelant

archer wrote: I'm not angry Fred, I don't engage much here anymore, but I do read, and I do see what is going on in the courthouse threads..... If you can't see the fact that many, possibly most, liberals here have drifted away then no problem, enjoy talking to each other.


They've drifted away because they have no ammo left. Even their vaulted, sacrosanct XL Pipeline opposition is passing on. The dice are rolling and the left is coming up with craps.

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