LOL wrote: Funny how a new modern regulated pipeline is at such a risk for spills, but all the 100,000 miles of existing rusty old pipelines everyone depends on daily are just hunky dory. Shouldn't we cap them and shut them all down and ride horses? LOL
One of the points the Governor made. His analogy is if you are going to have an accident would you want to be in a 30 year old car or a new one.
Sounds like y'all are admitting there will be an accident, but not to worry, it will be a better accident than the ones in the past...... Huh?
LOL wrote: Funny how a new modern regulated pipeline is at such a risk for spills, but all the 100,000 miles of existing rusty old pipelines everyone depends on daily are just hunky dory. Shouldn't we cap them and shut them all down and ride horses? LOL
One of the points the Governor made. His analogy is if you are going to have an accident would you want to be in a 30 year old car or a new one.
Sounds like y'all are admitting there will be an accident, but not to worry, it will be a better accident than the ones in the past...... Huh?
Admitting there will be an accident? How about living in the real world where accidents happen. Do you agree with LOL that we should all ride horses?
"Forty-two bodies have been found and transported to Montreal to be identified.[94] 39 of these were identified by investigators by late August 2013.[95] Identification of additional victims became increasingly difficult after the August 1 end of the on-site search and family members were asked to provide DNA samples of those missing, as well as dental records.[96] The bodies of five presumed victims were never found.[97][98] It is possible that some of the missing people were vaporized by the explosions.[99] As two of the three local notary offices have been destroyed by fire (and only one of the document vaults survived the blaze), the last will and testament of some victims of the disaster has been lost.[100][101]
At least 30 buildings were destroyed in the centre of town,"...
Maybe when someone can show me how this pipeline will benefit the citizens of this country beyond 50 permanent jobs I'll change my mind, so far that had not been done.
Shovel ready to whom? The temporary jobs are just that, temporary for one year. The 50 permanent jobs are not worth the possible risk. The oil is not for us. What is the upside? I'm not seeing it. We get a pipeline across our country, that will disrupt people's lives and community, that may or may not effect the eco system, that can be a disaster in the event of an accident, and what do we the people get for this?
archer wrote: 3900 temporary jobs for 1 year, 50 permanent jobs. Yeah, that's going to make a big impression on unemployment...... Forget the long term consequences of a major spill, I wonder how much those 50 jobs will cost us all.
ALL private sector jobs are temporary. That is why a person must be very productive in his job to maximize the profits of the company for which he works. This will extend the life of his company and prolong the life of this employment
Only government jobs are permanent.
archer wrote: Maybe when someone can show me how this pipeline will benefit the citizens of this country beyond 50 permanent jobs I'll change my mind, so far that had not been done.
Er...
“The core approach, really, is that our infrastructure needs to build out,” [Energy Secretary] Moniz said in an interview with Reuters Insider.
“Here we have a case, especially with the production in North Dakota, where the Bakken shale (output) zoomed from essentially nothing to past 1 million barrels a day,” he said.
One way of getting more crude oil out of the Bakken would be TransCanada Corp’s proposed Keystone pipeline from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico, expected to have “onramps” to pick up oil in North Dakota.
BlazerBob wrote: Will it be approved? I did not think so until today. Ed Schultz had a democratic advocate for finishing the pipe line. I do not believe that an experienced propagandist and hater like Ed would have allowed him on the air unless he had gotten the word. It will be interesting to see if other left wing venues start to reprogram all the XL haters they have created.
Obama and his administration want this to happen, despite what they say publicly to shut up environmentalists.
What did Big Oil know and when did they know it?
"The early spin today is that “environmentalists will be disappointed”. But consider the source. Last week, Jack Gerard, the head of the American Petroleum Institute
, told Reuters that ”It’s our expectation it will be released next week” Apparently Gerard cited sources within the administration.
“We’re expecting to hear the same conclusion that we’ve heard four times before: no significant impact on the environment,” Gerard said.
Two facts are important here:
1) Jack Gerard is saying the pipeline won’t impact the environment. This is about as surprising as the sun setting in the west.
2) Jack Gerard was apparently briefed by “sources within the Administration” on the timing and content of the report. Before the environmental community. Before Congress. Before anyone else.
If that doesn’t prove once and for all what a corrupt process this has been, I don’t know what will. The oil industry, which has had this process rigged since the word go, are the first to know, because of their cozy and corrupt role in this process."
Once again you attack the symptom and not the cause. Fix the government and you will not have to be concerned about evil oil companies, evil pharmaceutical companies, evil seed companies,...........
BTW, did they say no significant impact or no significant impact over and above current methods?
Wicked wrote:
BlazerBob wrote: Will it be approved? I did not think so until today. Ed Schultz had a democratic advocate for finishing the pipe line. I do not believe that an experienced propagandist and hater like Ed would have allowed him on the air unless he had gotten the word. It will be interesting to see if other left wing venues start to reprogram all the XL haters they have created.
Obama and his administration want this to happen, despite what they say publicly to shut up environmentalists.
What did Big Oil know and when did they know it?
"The early spin today is that “environmentalists will be disappointed”. But consider the source. Last week, Jack Gerard, the head of the American Petroleum Institute
, told Reuters that ”It’s our expectation it will be released next week” Apparently Gerard cited sources within the administration.
“We’re expecting to hear the same conclusion that we’ve heard four times before: no significant impact on the environment,” Gerard said.
Two facts are important here:
1) Jack Gerard is saying the pipeline won’t impact the environment. This is about as surprising as the sun setting in the west.
2) Jack Gerard was apparently briefed by “sources within the Administration” on the timing and content of the report. Before the environmental community. Before Congress. Before anyone else.
If that doesn’t prove once and for all what a corrupt process this has been, I don’t know what will. The oil industry, which has had this process rigged since the word go, are the first to know, because of their cozy and corrupt role in this process."
