The XL pipeline

Rick wrote: I never thought of that Bob, but it does make the most sense. That's why Obama is so obsessed with FOX... not willing to be a propaganda arm of the WH.

They are walking on razor blades between the irrational XL haters and dem senators they need to win.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _join.html

"WASHINGTON -- Supporters of the Keystone XL Pipeline, including Sens. Mary Landrieu, D-La., and David Vitter, R-La., joined together at a Capitol press conference to push President Barack Obama to approve the project now that the State Department has downplayed environmental impacts."...

BlazerBob wrote: Once again you attack the symptom and not the cause. Fix the government and you will not have to be concerned about evil oil companies, evil pharmaceutical companies, evil seed companies,...........

BTW, did they say no significant impact or no significant impact over and above current methods?

Pointing out the symptom is necessary to identify the cause and treat/excise it. I'm all for voting out every corporate-bought rep and replacing 'em all with the Green Party! Maybe a few libertarians too, they're a good balance.

Current methods have significant impact, you just don't hear about it in the mainstream corporate media. Have you heard anything recently about the Gulf Oil Spill? No? Shocker. They haven't improved any methods to stop pipeline or tanker leaks, or avoid the damage to the land from their extraction methods so any attempt to claim "no significant impact" is a lie. The biggest elephant in the room is that if the tar sands are opened at all, it's game over. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/opini ... .html?_r=0 We should be leaning on the Canadians to shut them down, not finding a way to help them export it.

Wicked wrote:

BlazerBob wrote: Once again you attack the symptom and not the cause. Fix the government and you will not have to be concerned about evil oil companies, evil pharmaceutical companies, evil seed companies,...........

BTW, did they say no significant impact or no significant impact over and above current methods?

Pointing out the symptom is necessary to identify the cause and treat/excise it. I'm all for voting out every corporate-bought rep and replacing 'em all with the Green Party! Maybe a few libertarians too, they're a good balance.

Current methods have significant impact, you just don't hear about it in the mainstream corporate media. Have you heard anything recently about the Gulf Oil Spill? No? Shocker. They haven't improved any methods to stop pipeline or tanker leaks, or avoid the damage to the land from their extraction methods so any attempt to claim "no significant impact" is a lie. The biggest elephant in the room is that if the tar sands are opened at all, it's game over. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/opini ... .html?_r=0 We should be leaning on the Canadians to shut them down, not finding a way to help them export it.

How did BIG OIL [/b] get to Ed Schultz?

Ed's union buddies might have had a talk with him behind his studio. :letsfight:

It's the XL Pipeline apocolyse. Now the big-bad-super-rich-climate-destroying-wildlife-killing-sticky-gooey-black-rancid oil companies have infected Ken Salazar's mind too...

Former Interior Secretary Ken Salazar says he believes the Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada should be built.

Salazar said at an energy conference in Houston Wednesday that the pipeline could be built safely, as long as conditions are imposed. Those conditions would require the pipeline operator to meet tough environmental standards and even pay for conservation programs along the pipeline route.

Salazar told The Associated Press that the pipeline could be a “win-win” project that benefits U.S. energy security while boosting conservation efforts in Montana, South Dakota and other affected states.

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/texas/art ... 207499.php

It's a conspiracy I tells ya... it's a conspiracy. The left is caving like an avalanche.

It looks like voting present might be running out of steam.





http://www.ogj.com/articles/2014/02/key ... ision.html

"Keystone XL supporters, opponents press Obama for prompt decision
WASHINGTON, DC, Feb. 4
02/04/2014
By Nick Snow
OGJ Washington Editor
Supporters and opponents of the proposed Keystone XL crude oil pipeline separately urged US President Barack Obama to decide promptly on whether the project should receive a cross-border permit. Their calls came days after the US Department of State released its final supplemental environmental impact statement on the project (OGJ Online, Feb. 1, 2014).
Ten US senators from both major political parties were joined by US Reps. Lee Terry (R-Neb.) and John Barrow (D-Ga.) and top officials from the American Petroleum Institute, the US Chamber of Commerce’s Institute for 21st Century Energy, and four labor unions on Feb. 4 in urging the president to let the project proceed."...

BlazerBob wrote:
"WASHINGTON -- Supporters of the Keystone XL Pipeline, including Sens. Mary Landrieu, D-La., and David Vitter, R-La., joined together at a Capitol press conference to push President Barack Obama to approve the project now that the State Department has downplayed environmental impacts."...

And just watch, Dog, the rest of your Democratic cowards will follow...

And the dominoes tumble...

On a recent conference call with reporters, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka endorsed two initiatives reviled by green groups: the Keystone XL pipeline and new natural gas export terminals.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/16221/a ... _investme/

Now the big-bad-super-rich-climate-destroying-wildlife-killing-sticky-gooey-black-rancid oil companies have infected Obama's favorite labor unions too.

Labor leaders have long backed the pipeline, arguing it would create thousands of construction jobs and boost the economy. But many of them have been muted in their criticism of President Obama, for fear of opening a rift with the White House over the controversial project.

That seemed to change on Tuesday, as the presidents of building trade unions linked the delay of Keystone to broader anger at the administration within the labor movement.

“Our anger doesn’t just stop with Keystone XL,” Terry O’Sullivan, president of the Laborers International Union of North America (LIUNA) told The Hill. “We are extremely angry about the Affordable Care Act and the fact that there is 12.8 percent unemployment in construction.”

“Are [lawmakers] really for jobs and the middle class?” O’Sullivan said. “This whole thing reeks of politics.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wir ... f-politics

They won't get fooled again. November is just around the corner.

Side Bar: Denver Post editorial 10/March/2014. Advocates increased export of domestic natural gas and fracking to free Europe and others from dependence on Russian fuel sources despite the need for fracking.