Kids Flee the Lunch Line

archer wrote: I really don't much care what the adults(?) here think about what they eat, or if they are obese, or if they will die young from heart disease, you make your choices and you deal with the consequences. That's freedom of choice and I will champion that any and every opportunity I get. .

So, Archer, then it is safe to say you disagree with the liberals in New York trying to limit the size of soft drinks, etc, in an effort to control what people consume? (Again, no personal responsibility we (i.e. the government) will dictate what you will do.)

Oh, and I agree with you 100% - you deal with the consequnces of your actions.

archer wrote: I really don't much care what the adults(?) here think about what they eat, or if they are obese, or if they will die young from heart disease, you make your choices and you deal with the consequences. That's freedom of choice and I will champion that any and every opportunity I get. But kids don't get to choose what mom buys at the store, nor do they understand what is or is not good for them. The school is in a unique position to shape the future of young minds and bodies, it's in all our best interests that they get it right.

I agree that kids don't have a choice when it comes to what kind of food they've been raised with. But if the trash cans at school are getting filled up with uneaten food the kids aren't forced to eat, how long will it be before someone in government decides that enough is enough? You can't force a kid to change their taste... you can try, but if you fail, what next?

When I was a wee lad at West Jeff Elementary back in the late 60s I guarantee we had fattier and higher carb foods, no salads, whole milk, and some kind of dessert. The difference is that we were forced to be active, at school and at home... limited TV and no video games.

I don't think kids are less healthy than we were because of the food as much as the lack of physical activities. And imo, physical activity does more for a kid's body and brain than would one "healthy" meal a day that they are likely to not finish. Dropping mandatory PE was one of the worst things that could have happened, next to the invention of video games. Find a way to get kids to move again and you'll probably get them to eat better as they get older.

Omni, yes...I do disagree with the liberals in NY, and those anywhere that try to legislate control on adults personal actions and choices. It's nobody's business but my own what I eat, or if I smoke, or if I choose to wear a seat belt. But I do agree with protections for children who do not have the ability to control their own environment that an adult has.

I'm not sure I understand your post Rick, are you advocating that we just give the kids what they want? Let them have the sugary drinks, the fatty junk foods, whatever they demand? This thinking is how we got in this situation in the first place, we don't want to be the adults and set the boundaries for kids, it's so much easier to just give up and let the kids have what they want. And the kids know this, throw that healthy stuff away, get the headlines, and the adults will capitulate. It seems to me that the school kids have the conservatives number......If the kids can make the liberals look bad the GOP will give them what they want.

OK, so maybe the kids aren't really that devious, but the result is exactly that. We now have republicans advocating for unhealthy foods in the schools and for letting children make the rules.

[quote="archer". It's nobody's business but my own what I eat, or if I smoke, or if I choose to wear a seat belt..[/quote] Not exactly. In Colorado, you are forced by law to wear a seat belt, and you can't smoke in most public places by law... but you are still allowed to eat what you want (except for people, you can't eat people). You are not allowed to buy whatever health insurance you want or defend yourself with any weapon you want either. These are obviously the governments business and not just yours.

archer wrote: Omni, yes...I do disagree with the liberals in NY, and those anywhere that try to legislate control on adults personal actions and choices. It's nobody's business but my own what I eat, or if I smoke, or if I choose to wear a seat belt. But I do agree with protections for children who do not have the ability to control their own environment that an adult has.

Seriously archer? ACA controls adults. Drug laws controls us. So many governmental laws control us. Maybe I am not understanding your statement.

archer wrote: . It seems to me that the school kids have the conservatives number......If the kids can make the liberals look bad the GOP will give them what they want.

And one more point about your delusional quote... you really need to stop thinking all conservatives think alike, we don't. There will be conservatives out there who believe as you do about what kind of food is offered at school, we all have different opinions about all kinds of things... I know this because I have many conservative friends who disagree with me about many subjects. You look silly when you make these silly generalizations that you can't possibly believe (do you?).

My opinions are MINE, they are not part of a conservative playbook.

GreatGran wrote:

archer wrote: Omni, yes...I do disagree with the liberals in NY, and those anywhere that try to legislate control on adults personal actions and choices. It's nobody's business but my own what I eat, or if I smoke, or if I choose to wear a seat belt. But I do agree with protections for children who do not have the ability to control their own environment that an adult has.

Seriously archer? ACA controls adults. Drug laws controls us. So many governmental laws control us. Maybe I am not understanding your statement.

so do taxes, and laws that try to control pregnant woman, and anti gay marriage laws, and laws passed that don't allow for a dying person the option to take their own life with medical assistance. And laws that require you to have drivers licence before you can drive a car, and laws that require you tio have insurance on your car before you can take your car on the road. Lots of laws, because we are a civilized society....some I agree with, some I don't, As for the ACA.....single payer healthcare for each and every citizen removes the need for a mandate.....great idea!

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archer wrote:

OmniScience wrote: I'll give Aunt Esther credit for her "Lets Move!" program. At least it was an effort to get kids moving.

Archer, I do agree with you that the young parents got lazy (and dumb), but there comes a time in your life when you have to take some responsibility and get off your butt and do something. But again, here I go down that old Taboo road of Personal Responsibility.

Why is personal responsibility taboo? I believe in it, and encouraged my kids to live their lives that way, conservatives don't have a monopoly on responsibility. What I don't believe in is punishing children for having lazy/poor/uneducated parents. If we can get to the kids at a young age and teach them healthy eating habits and provide education on those things their parents aren't providing, maybe we can raise future generations of smarter, healthier, and more responsible adults.

If you haven't noticed, Archer. NOBODY talks about personal responsibility anymore, especially our elected leaders. If I am wrong and missing it, please show me any of our elected leaders, (or heck ANYONE these days), that talks about taking responsibility for your actions instead of blaming someone else, looking for a hand out, or getting a free ride courtesy of a lawsuit. They are few and far between.
How would people today respond to JFK's famous words in his inaugural address? MY guess is they would fall on deaf ears.

Yeah, it's too bad NOBODY talks about it....

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There's MANY more...But even watching his lips move wouldn't sway you.

Per the BBC, no more bangers for English kids. Muslims have managed to take pork off the menu of British school kids.
They are now only allowed to eat Halal meat, animals slaughtered according to religious laws.

Think the US will come to that? Or will the vegetarians ban meat before that to save the enviroment instead?