THE FUTURE of medicine/health AND physicans (who care)

BECAUSE the Obamacare is at the top of the front page.....

homeagain wrote: BECAUSE the Obamacare is at the top of the front page.....

Huh? Not sure what this has to do with the question I asked.

Rick...in a past post I indicated that I would BUMP the three threads (that are related to the
problem of Obamacare)..for as long as the Obamacare thread REMAINED on the first page.....)A
REBUTTAL to the continuing barrage of bullshit. JMO

homeagain wrote: Rick...in a past post I indicated that I would BUMP the three threads (that are related to the
problem of Obamacare)..for as long as the Obamacare thread REMAINED on the first page.....)A
REBUTTAL to the continuing barrage of bullsh**. JMO

You know HA, I always thought you were a little more mature than that. IMO, you make a better point if you point the "bullshit" which you claim is continued throughout the Obamacare thread. Are you saying the links are all made up or are the sources lying about the information? Give some examples... this is just like the Fox News derangement screamers who make blanket "it's fake news!!!" statements but then can't back the claim up.

If there are lies in any thread, then you should be the first to point them out since you so often act like you're neutral.

Rick....I have posted NUMEROUS TIMES that Obamacare is NOT the problem....it is the RESULT
of multi-layered factors that have gone UNADDRESSED for many years.....Pharmco and the
relationship between the doctors and DRUG KICKBACKS.....the LACK of attentiveness to the
relationship between the CHEMICALS in the food chain/environment and the subsequent diseases
that NOW are running rampant.....(addressing the result of the disease INSTEAD of addressing
WHAT causes the disease.....Obamacare roll out and subsequent process problems are in deed
a fact......I am NOT questioning the facts.....I AM questioning the REASON Obamacare was
required....THAT correlation is being OMITTED in the thread....and so I brought it forward in
several different threads to provide a BALANCE point....after 42 pages WHO is going to review
the ENTIRE thread to see a counter point?

Obamacare wasn't required. It was wanted by some, and others hoped it would die.

I've had a doctor for the last 25 years that first tries non-medication cures for what ails ya. If those fail, he goes to the pills. I like it. He's not afraid to say "Nothing I can do, except relieve symptoms if you want". He calls the body an incredible self-healing machine, and intervenes only when it seems something has thrown the body out of whack. He helped my family when he knew I was unemployed, and he's known to make house calls in an emergency.

And now that Obamacare is the law of the land, he's thinking of retiring.

Nobody........YOU are extremely fortunate to have found such a doctor....they are RARE today.

I, too, have such a doctor,but I just recently found her over the last 3 or 4 years....BEFORE
that I was very attentive to WHO and WHAT I would allow.

MY doctor is leaving KP for the same reason and attaching herself to a Functional Medicine Group
THAT is the reason for this thread.....there IS another way to administer healthcare.....however,
NOW it is called "boutique medicine" and is OLD school in it's presentation.....JMO

homeagain wrote: Rick....I have posted NUMEROUS TIMES that Obamacare is NOT the problem....it is the RESULT
of multi-layered factors that have gone UNADDRESSED for many years.....Pharmco and the
relationship between the doctors and DRUG KICKBACKS.....the LACK of attentiveness to the
relationship between the CHEMICALS in the food chain/environment and the subsequent diseases
that NOW are running rampant.....(addressing the result of the disease INSTEAD of addressing
WHAT causes the disease.....Obamacare roll out and subsequent process problems are in deed
a fact......I am NOT questioning the facts.....I AM questioning the REASON Obamacare was
required....THAT correlation is being OMITTED in the thread....and so I brought it forward in
several different threads to provide a BALANCE point....after 42 pages WHO is going to review
the ENTIRE thread to see a counter point?

The problem is that the title of the thread is about OBAMACARE UPDATES. Meaning updates to the "settled" law. The title has nothing to do with why we got stuck with the law or what the real issues with healthcare actually are, it's about a law that is changing like the Colorado weather. I think it's perfectly reasonable to point out every change or delay to THE LAW in ONE THREAD... this will reduce duplicate threads and is a good record of the law's "progress".

I'm all for discussing all the real problems that the ACA doesn't, and was never intended to address in others threads... but to get angry about too many pages of new changes and delays seems irrational.

homeagain wrote: Nobody........YOU are extremely fortunate to have found such a doctor....they are RARE today.

I, too, have such a doctor,but I just recently found her over the last 3 or 4 years....BEFORE
that I was very attentive to WHO and WHAT I would allow.

MY doctor is leaving KP for the same reason and attaching herself to a Functional Medicine Group
THAT is the reason for this thread.....there IS another way to administer healthcare.....however,
NOW it is called "boutique medicine" and is OLD school in it's presentation.....JMO

So do you think these "Functional Medicine Groups" are likely to be integrated into a government controlled healthcare system or are they likely to be detached and independent for those who can afford them?

Rick wrote:

homeagain wrote: Rick....I have posted NUMEROUS TIMES that Obamacare is NOT the problem....it is the RESULT
of multi-layered factors that have gone UNADDRESSED for many years.....Pharmco and the
relationship between the doctors and DRUG KICKBACKS.....the LACK of attentiveness to the
relationship between the CHEMICALS in the food chain/environment and the subsequent diseases
that NOW are running rampant.....(addressing the result of the disease INSTEAD of addressing
WHAT causes the disease.....Obamacare roll out and subsequent process problems are in deed
a fact......I am NOT questioning the facts.....I AM questioning the REASON Obamacare was
required....THAT correlation is being OMITTED in the thread....and so I brought it forward in
several different threads to provide a BALANCE point....after 42 pages WHO is going to review
the ENTIRE thread to see a counter point?

The problem is that the title of the thread is about OBAMACARE UPDATES. Meaning updates to the "settled" law. The title has nothing to do with why we got stuck with the law or what the real issues with healthcare actually are, it's about a law that is changing like the Colorado weather. I think it's perfectly reasonable to point out every change or delay to THE LAW in ONE THREAD... this will reduce duplicate threads and is a good record of the law's "progress".

I'm all for discussing all the real problems that the ACA doesn't, and was never intended to address in others threads... but to get angry about too many pages of new changes and delays seems irrational.

I believe you need to REVIEW the entire thread....there is ALOT of bitching going on, UPDATES
are NOT the whole of the thread.....JMO