Were voter's "really" disenfranchised?

10 Nov 2014 16:55 #101 by ZHawke
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PrintSmith wrote: And so what Z, because there may have been a reason 50 years ago that is justification for a perpetual intervention on the part of the federal government?


Perhaps.

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10 Nov 2014 17:12 #102 by PrintSmith
And perhaps the laws demand that what happened 50 years ago is insufficient grounds to justify such a perpetual intervention.

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10 Nov 2014 17:23 #103 by ZHawke
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PrintSmith wrote: And perhaps the laws demand that what happened 50 years ago is insufficient grounds to justify such a perpetual intervention.


Can you then explain/justify what happened almost immediately following SCOTUS' virtual gutting of the Voting Rights Act of 1965?

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11 Nov 2014 11:00 #104 by PrintSmith
Yes. Once the States were no longer subjugated by an unconstitutional provision that existed in the federal laws, they took what they deemed necessary steps to ensure the validity of the vote in their State.

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11 Nov 2014 11:05 #105 by PrintSmith
FWIW, finding that the formula contained in the VRA of 1965 wasn't constitutional in 2014 isn't a "gutting" of the VRA. Congress may certainly enact an new formula, one that is current and relevant, to replace the outdated one which said that any State was subject to federal oversight for what occurred prior to 1965.

Our laws do not allow for the sins of the father to be held against the son Z, and that is precisely what the old formula did.

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11 Nov 2014 18:57 #106 by ZHawke
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Interesting article on the possible effects of voter ID laws from the 2012 election focused on two states: Kansas and Tennessee.

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/...y-over-100000-votes/

My take away from this and from looking at the actual report (embedded in the article)? The jury is still out on what happened then and again in the 2014 mid-term elections.

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11 Nov 2014 21:44 #107 by CC
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12 Nov 2014 11:48 - 12 Nov 2014 14:19 #108 by PrintSmith

ZHawke wrote: Interesting article on the possible effects of voter ID laws from the 2012 election focused on two states: Kansas and Tennessee.

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/...y-over-100000-votes/

My take away from this and from looking at the actual report (embedded in the article)? The jury is still out on what happened then and again in the 2014 mid-term elections.

And my first question would be why they chose to compare Kansas and Tennessee to Maine, Arkansas, Alabama and Delaware. Are they the only States that could be used to support the desired outcome?

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12 Nov 2014 13:06 #109 by ramage
Strict photo ID in effect: Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. In addition, North Carolina and Wisconsin have strict photo ID laws that are not yet in effect.

Photo ID in effect: Alabama, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, Rhode Island, and South Dakota.

Above info is from Wikipedia

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