Some perspective on "immigration"?

HEARTLESS wrote: Please show all the immigration laws prior to say 1900 to back up your delusional argument.

That's the problem - there really aren't any. Which, BTW, is the premise of the article I provided a link to in the OP. The laws that "morphed" immigration are referenced in the article itself. You do the research.

ZHawke wrote:

BlazerBob wrote:

ZHawke wrote: On immigration, specifically. Not on immigration "reform".

talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/no-your-ances...-t-come-here-legally

My perspective is that the author has too much time on his hands or perhaps is educated beyond his intelligence or perhaps is obeying the principal of "publish or perish".

I guess it is part of a campaign to reshape reality. I heard on CNBC someone say the new immigration edicts will improve the economy and put on pressure to raise wages.

"Campaign to reshape reality"? How so?

"Orwell said that language makes humans easy to control—control their language and you control the people."

The author is trying to conflate illegal immigration with pre-legal immigration. OK, I think I made up that term but if you read the comments you should know what I mean.

Ahhh! A cute little picture, well I guess this is now settled.

BlazerBob wrote: "Orwell said that language makes humans easy to control—control their language and you control the people."

The author is trying to conflate illegal immigration with pre-legal immigration. OK, I think I made up that term but if you read the comments you should know what I mean.

Still does not change the fact immigration policy has morphed over time into something that some consider to be in need of reform at this point in time.

HEARTLESS wrote: Ahhh! A cute little picture, well I guess this is now settled.

How so? Pictures sometimes speak more than a thousand words, emoticons not-withstanding.

OT

I was skimming the article I took the Orwell statement from and came across this.

" “It doesn’t matter if you lie, just so you get your way” has become a Republican mantra. The Democratic Party is full of liars too, but if you catch them in a lie, they are generally decent enough to show at least a modicum of shame. The current crop of Republicans scarcely know or care about the meaning of the word."

servinghousejournal.com/BrennaOrwellLanguage.aspx

It was written in 2010. I wonder if the author is still of the same opinion.

ZHawke wrote:

HEARTLESS wrote: Please show all the immigration laws prior to say 1900 to back up your delusional argument.

That's the problem - there really aren't any. Which, BTW, is the premise of the article I provided a link to in the OP. The laws that "morphed" immigration are referenced in the article itself. You do the research.

Please note your admitting there were no laws prior to 1900 regarding immigration. So the passage of any law is simply a morph to Liberals and can be cherry picked as to what to follow or not then?

ZHawke wrote:

BlazerBob wrote: "Orwell said that language makes humans easy to control—control their language and you control the people."

The author is trying to conflate illegal immigration with pre-legal immigration. OK, I think I made up that term but if you read the comments you should know what I mean.

Still does not change the fact immigration policy has morphed over time into something that some consider to be in need of reform at this point in time.

Is there anyone contesting that? No one I am aware of.

HEARTLESS wrote: Please note your admitting there were no laws prior to 1900 regarding immigration. So the passage of any law is simply a morph to Liberals and can be cherry picked as to what to follow or not then?

From the article:

Prior to 1875’s Page Act and 1882’s Chinese Exclusion Act, there were no national immigration laws. None. There were laws related to naturalization and citizenship, to how vessels reported their passengers, to banning the slave trade. Once New York’s Castle Garden Immigration Station opened in 1855, arrivals there reported names and origins before entering the U.S. But for all pre-1875 immigrants, no laws applied to their arrival. They weren't legal or illegal; they were just immigrants.

Please note I said there "really aren't any" which may be construed, as you have apparently done, to there being none prior to 1900. The two immigration laws mentioned above are very real, however. The article goes on to give a history of immigration laws enacted over a period of time. To me, that's morphing.

BlazerBob wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

BlazerBob wrote: "Orwell said that language makes humans easy to control—control their language and you control the people."

The author is trying to conflate illegal immigration with pre-legal immigration. OK, I think I made up that term but if you read the comments you should know what I mean.

Still does not change the fact immigration policy has morphed over time into something that some consider to be in need of reform at this point in time.

Is there anyone contesting that? No one I am aware of.

What - the "morphing" or the "need for reform"?