Gotta wonder......

jf1acai wrote: IMO, some people are determined to make Officer Wilson 'pay' for doing his job, whether the evidence indicates he did anything wrong or not. Of course, they conveniently ignore the fact that he has already paid, and will continue to pay, for doing his job to the best of his ability.

I have not seen any credible evidence that shows Officer Wilson did anything wrong, but there is plenty evidence to indicate that Brown did.

However, these people continue to demand that Officer Wilson, and of course the state, incur the consequences of another extended trial. Such a trial would most likely result in a similar decision, based upon the facts presented to the Grand Jury. It would not bring Brown back to life. It would not satisfy those who are unhappy now.

A much better course of action, IMO, would be to point out what decisions by the deceased led to the result, and use that to learn from. A few of those decisions would include choosing to walk down the middle of the street, instead of on the sidewalk, where he should have been, thus drawing the officer's attention. Another would be belligerently responding to the officer when he made the second contact. Fighting with the officer in his vehicle is not something that I would recommend being taught to anyone as a good idea. Fleeing the officer after that doesn't seem to me to be a good plan. Ignoring the officer's commands to get on the ground isn't highly recommended either. And finally, approaching the officer, in any manner, after doing the above is almost certainly going to result in undesirable consequences.

Why is all this being ignored, in an attempt to blame the officer?

It isn't being "ignored". Nor is it an attempt to blame the officer. Rather, it is an attempt to make absolutely certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt that justice is done, whether it be to exonerate Officer Wilson or not. I would think Officer Wilson would be all for that.

ZHawke wrote:
It isn't being "ignored". Nor is it an attempt to blame the officer. Rather, it is an attempt to make absolutely certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt that justice is done, whether it be to exonerate Officer Wilson or not. I would think Officer Wilson would be all for that.

Do you honestly believe that if this was to go to a trial and Wilson was again found not guilty, that the protestors and racial agitators would admit they were wrong and allow Wilson to go on with his life? These people have far too much invested in their own verdicts to ever admit they were wrong imo. The fact that the supporters refuse to condemn Brown's actions tells me their blindness will not be cured by any verdict.

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote:
It isn't being "ignored". Nor is it an attempt to blame the officer. Rather, it is an attempt to make absolutely certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt that justice is done, whether it be to exonerate Officer Wilson or not. I would think Officer Wilson would be all for that.

Do you honestly believe that if this was to go to a trial and Wilson was again found not guilty, that the protestors and racial agitators would admit they were wrong and allow Wilson to go on with his life? These people have far too much invested in their own verdicts to ever admit they were wrong imo. The fact that the supporters refuse to condemn Brown's actions tells me their blindness will not be cured by any verdict.

We're talking, at this point, about reopening another Grand Jury investigation, not going to trial, necessarily. If Wilson has nothing to hide, I still would think Wilson would be all for putting this to rest. With the new information regarding the alleged bias and other alleged mistakes made by the DA's office, getting things straight and right would be a high priority, IMO. Regardless of whether or not anyone's "blindness" will be cured isn't the issue. Justice is.

It has been put to rest except by the feds. That will be hanging over his head for years.

BlazerBob wrote: It has been put to rest except by the feds. That will be hanging over his head for years.

It hasn't been put to rest by any stretch of the imagination, BlazerBob. Reality is there is a possibility a Grand Jury inquiry could be revisited. Civil suits may be brought, both against Officer Wilson and the Police Department of Ferguson. Reality is the issues swirling around this case won't go away just because no charges have been brought by this Grand Jury. Denial of an issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Officer Wilson, innocent or guilty of a crime, has arguably already been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. His defenders cry out for everyone to accept his innocence. His detractors cry out for "justice". He's already arguably a wealthy man as a result of his "fame" in this incident. He's hitting the interview circuit, but he's also having to take measures to protect himself at all times. Living in constant fear for one's own safety isn't something I'd want to wish on my own worst enemy. If he's completely and totally innocent, then, especially, this kind of life isn't something I would wish on him. And, even if he is, in fact, completely and totally innocent of a crime, it's a matter of opinion whether or not he should "profit" financially from an incident such as this one.

ZHawke wrote:

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote:
It isn't being "ignored". Nor is it an attempt to blame the officer. Rather, it is an attempt to make absolutely certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt that justice is done, whether it be to exonerate Officer Wilson or not. I would think Officer Wilson would be all for that.

Do you honestly believe that if this was to go to a trial and Wilson was again found not guilty, that the protestors and racial agitators would admit they were wrong and allow Wilson to go on with his life? These people have far too much invested in their own verdicts to ever admit they were wrong imo. The fact that the supporters refuse to condemn Brown's actions tells me their blindness will not be cured by any verdict.

We're talking, at this point, about reopening another Grand Jury investigation, not going to trial, necessarily. If Wilson has nothing to hide, I still would think Wilson would be all for putting this to rest. With the new information regarding the alleged bias and other alleged mistakes made by the DA's office, getting things straight and right would be a high priority, IMO. Regardless of whether or not anyone's "blindness" will be cured isn't the issue. Justice is.

So I'm assuming the evidence and the witnesses will all be the same right?

ZHawke wrote:

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote: It isn't being "ignored". Nor is it an attempt to blame the officer. Rather, it is an attempt to make absolutely certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt that justice is done, whether it be to exonerate Officer Wilson or not. I would think Officer Wilson would be all for that.

Do you honestly believe that if this was to go to a trial and Wilson was again found not guilty, that the protestors and racial agitators would admit they were wrong and allow Wilson to go on with his life? These people have far too much invested in their own verdicts to ever admit they were wrong imo. The fact that the supporters refuse to condemn Brown's actions tells me their blindness will not be cured by any verdict.

We're talking, at this point, about reopening another Grand Jury investigation, not going to trial, necessarily. If Wilson has nothing to hide, I still would think Wilson would be all for putting this to rest. With the new information regarding the alleged bias and other alleged mistakes made by the DA's office, getting things straight and right would be a high priority, IMO. Regardless of whether or not anyone's "blindness" will be cured isn't the issue. Justice is.

Some are talking about having another grand jury investigation because they didn't like the outcome of the first one. By hook or by crook, because they want a trial they will justify any and all means necessary to achieve it. This is what is known as social justice by the left, who wants to make progress towards the mob rule of democracy.

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote:
It isn't being "ignored". Nor is it an attempt to blame the officer. Rather, it is an attempt to make absolutely certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt that justice is done, whether it be to exonerate Officer Wilson or not. I would think Officer Wilson would be all for that.

Do you honestly believe that if this was to go to a trial and Wilson was again found not guilty, that the protestors and racial agitators would admit they were wrong and allow Wilson to go on with his life? These people have far too much invested in their own verdicts to ever admit they were wrong imo. The fact that the supporters refuse to condemn Brown's actions tells me their blindness will not be cured by any verdict.

We're talking, at this point, about reopening another Grand Jury investigation, not going to trial, necessarily. If Wilson has nothing to hide, I still would think Wilson would be all for putting this to rest. With the new information regarding the alleged bias and other alleged mistakes made by the DA's office, getting things straight and right would be a high priority, IMO. Regardless of whether or not anyone's "blindness" will be cured isn't the issue. Justice is.

So I'm assuming the evidence and the witnesses will all be the same right?

Assume anything you like. At this juncture, we just don't know. If a new Grand Jury is reconvened, it would necessarily be a new independent prosecutor that conducts the investigation. There are some who are saying the first Grand Jury investigation was rigged in Officer Wilson's favor before it even began. If that is the case, then a new, independent prosecutor would be appropriate. That there was even a possibility of the appearance of impropriety by the prosecution in this case should, IMO, have been reason enough to recuse/step aside and let another independent prosecutor take over. That's my opinion.

I don't know if another decision not to charge Officer Wilson would be the final result of another investigation. But, given the societal sentence being placed on him, I would think he would welcome further exoneration from an independent investigation to help him regain his life - that is, if he has nothing to hide.

ZHawke wrote:

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote:

Rick wrote:

ZHawke wrote:
It isn't being "ignored". Nor is it an attempt to blame the officer. Rather, it is an attempt to make absolutely certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt that justice is done, whether it be to exonerate Officer Wilson or not. I would think Officer Wilson would be all for that.

Do you honestly believe that if this was to go to a trial and Wilson was again found not guilty, that the protestors and racial agitators would admit they were wrong and allow Wilson to go on with his life? These people have far too much invested in their own verdicts to ever admit they were wrong imo. The fact that the supporters refuse to condemn Brown's actions tells me their blindness will not be cured by any verdict.

We're talking, at this point, about reopening another Grand Jury investigation, not going to trial, necessarily. If Wilson has nothing to hide, I still would think Wilson would be all for putting this to rest. With the new information regarding the alleged bias and other alleged mistakes made by the DA's office, getting things straight and right would be a high priority, IMO. Regardless of whether or not anyone's "blindness" will be cured isn't the issue. Justice is.

So I'm assuming the evidence and the witnesses will all be the same right?

Assume anything you like. At this juncture, we just don't know. If a new Grand Jury is reconvened, it would necessarily be a new independent prosecutor that conducts the investigation. There are some who are saying the first Grand Jury investigation was rigged in Officer Wilson's favor before it even began. If that is the case, then a new, independent prosecutor would be appropriate. That there was even a possibility of the appearance of impropriety by the prosecution in this case should, IMO, have been reason enough to recuse/step aside and let another independent prosecutor take over. That's my opinion.

I don't know if another decision not to charge Officer Wilson would be the final result of another investigation. But, given the societal sentence being placed on him, I would think he would welcome further exoneration from an independent investigation to help him regain his life - that is, if he has nothing to hide.

Plus this gives the lying witnesses more time to practice their lies.

PrintSmith wrote: Some are talking about having another grand jury investigation because they didn't like the outcome of the first one. By hook or by crook, because they want a trial they will justify any and all means necessary to achieve it. This is what is known as social justice by the left, who wants to make progress towards the mob rule of democracy.

Call it what you want, P, but legal experts and scholars, both, are saying the Grand Jury process in this case was skewed in Officer Wilson's favor. Do the research.