Politico: Leaked Document- Roe V Wade Overturned

ramage wrote: Excuse me, you post 10 paragraphs from a source which you do not attribute. It is then my responsibility to research your unattributed plagiarism to find the source. Is that correct?

avanaugh’s remarks in his confirmation hearings came in conjunction with reports that he had privately reassured Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) that he thought Roe v. Wade was settled law to convince her to support his nomination

YES that is correct .......U find the transcript,the bolded clarifies the source.....K LIED TO GET A CONFIRMATION VOTE.

MyMountainTown,
Please point out what I may have overlooked. You referred me to a source,( not the person posting), in that source I cannot find the 10 paragraphs cited by the poster. the government document which you referenced is a transcript of the Senate hearing. The poster's comment is relaying the interpretation of another individual, e.g. "In one exchange with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) then, she asked", another example, "Kavanaugh responded by saying that". This is not in the transcript you referenced. So where did the remarks of the poster originate? That is the question.
I do not know why you chose to put in bold letters , " your unattributed plagiarism ". Where I was educated plagiarism was defined as the use of someone else's words and not attributing the source, thereby passing them off as one's own. Were you taught another definition?

I feel sorry for all the male birthing persons in Red States who will no longer have the option to kill their fetuses in womb.

ramage wrote: HA,
Please provide the source for your posting, obviously these are not your words.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/...g-abortion-decision/

In one exchange with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) then, she asked if he agreed with former Justice Sandra Day O’Connor that a women’s right to control her reproductive life impacted her ability to “participate equally in the economic and social life of the nation.”

Kavanaugh responded by saying that, “as a general proposition,” he understood the importance of the precedent set in Roe v. Wade, and outlined the rationales that undergirded both Roe and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which reaffirmed a woman’s constitutional right to obtain an abortion before fetal viability.

Feinstein then outright asked Kavanaugh what he meant by “settled law” and whether he believed Roe v. Wade to be correct law. Kavanaugh said he believed it was “settled as a precedent of the Supreme Court” and should be “entitled the respect under principles of stare decisis,” the notion that precedents should not be overturned without strong reason.

“And one of the important things to keep in mind about Roe v. Wade is that it has been reaffirmed many times over the past 45 years, as you know, and most prominently, most importantly, reaffirmed in Planned Parenthood v. Casey in 1992,” Kavanaugh said then.

Shortly afterward, Feinstein interrupted Kavanaugh to note that she had sat through nine confirmation hearings for Supreme Court justices, who had expressed similar sentiments about stare decisis.

“And when the subject comes up, the person says, ‘I will follow stare decisis,’ and they get confirmed, and then, of course, they do not,” she told Kavanaugh.

Kavanaugh did not answer Feinstein directly, instead pivoting to how he understood “how passionate and how deeply people feel about this issue.” He went on at length to talk about how Planned Parenthood v. Casey had reaffirmed Roe, making it “a precedent on precedent.”

“I understand the importance of the issue. I understand the importance that people attach to the Roe v. Wade decision, to the Planned Parenthood v. Casey decision,” Kavanaugh said. “I do not live in a bubble. I understand. I live in the real world. I understand the importance of the issue.”
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) delivered a 45-minute long speech on the Senate floor before confirming her support of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. (Video: Joyce Koh/U.S. Senate)

Kavanaugh’s remarks in his confirmation hearings came in conjunction with reports that he had privately reassured Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) that he thought Roe v. Wade was settled law to convince her to support his nomination. Collins would go on to express her full confidence in several interviews that Kavanaugh would not overturn Roe v. Wade.
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“I would not support a nominee that demonstrated hostility to Roe v. Wade because that would mean to me that their judicial philosophy did not include a respect for established decisions,” she told CNN at the time.

The Senate ultimately confirmed Kavanaugh in a 50-to-48 vote.

On Wednesday afternoon, Collins claimed not to have seen Kavanaugh’s questioning or heard any of the oral arguments on the Mississippi case earlier in the day.

“I hope to later tonight play them so that I have firsthand knowledge of what the arguments were today, but I can’t comment on what I didn’t [watch],” Collins told reporters at the Capitol.

When asked if she was concerned about the future of Roe v. Wade, Collins replied, “I’m for Roe.”

Seung Min Kim contributed to this report.

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THIS exchange is WHY The "leak" was let loose.....a BLATANT BLOW BACK because LIES r impacting
women's way of walking thru life....this weasel (K) had already proven his stance.

www.aclu.org/blog/reproductive-freedom/a...hs-one-abortion-case

HIS DELAYED DECISION WAS A FUCK U TO EVERYONE WOMAN.......and yet all the words of agreement in his hearing (including his demeanor) were a sham.....THAT is the epitome of MALE dominance. ALITO
is an aged ass ----,just mirroring men's superior status.....EVERY LAST MALE WHO AGREED WITH HIS WORDS SHOULD BE REPLACED. (the stupid thing about this scenario is.....who the hell did NOT see it coming( after K was confirmed.)

Instead of the screaming and foul language, why not make an argument for whyt this is the end of the world?

First of all, ramage made the best point so far in that the Supreme Court's integrity is now permanently damaged as it has become political because of one activist that should be disbarred as soon as said individual is identified.

Secondly, lets look back in time and discuss the Roe V Wade decision and why that was or was not a good process that fits with a "democracy". If the people who believe in the process of killing unborn life are also for "democracy", then why not give the people the right to choose the ruling instead of just nine unelected people who all have their individual ideologies?

Had Roe been decided by a majority of conservatives, would liberals have ever given up on the fight to protect the "right" to abort a living human? Of course not and they would have been calling for a vote of the people.

The only way to do this how the founders intended is to let individual states decide, just like they did with the Covid BS. That way the people get the final say and judges can judge instead of making unconstitutional laws.

MyMountainTown wrote: Quoted material should be linked back to the source so readers can read it in context. This is the transcript of Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing, we did not confirm if it was correctly or accurately quoted, please feel free to peruse the transcript for yourselves: www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-115shrg...HRG-115shrg32765.pdf

YES RICK,THE ANSWER IS YES

YOU (Rick) do not have the anatomy to carry a fetus to full term...I am enraged that MEN think they KNOW what is best for a women......THE END RESULT OF AN UNWANTED CHILD,FORCED TO BE DELIVERED,
USUALLY ENDS IN ABUSE,NEGLECT,MENTAL AND PHYSICAL PROBLEMS....WHO IS FEEDING THIS CHILD,WHO IS LOVING/CARING FOR THIS CHILD \,WHO TAKES THE MONETARY HIT TO RAISE THE CHILD TO 18, WHO?????

Certainly not the majority of those people who oppose abortion AND CERTAINLY NOT THE MALES ON SCOTUS,the mere suggestion that punishment was OK prior to 1973 is a vomit worthy verbal statement
and should IMMEDIATELY relieve any SCOTUS judge from the bench. (let us keep the female barefoot and with child,HER RIGHTFUL POSITION WITHIN THE HIERARCHY)

I apreciate your pasion about the subject but you also have to admit that about 50% of women don't believe as you do. There's a whole lot of women who recognize that killing a human life is just wrong and should only be a rare accurance instead of brutal form of birth control.

The other part you ignore is the process of deciding abortion law in a country where THE PEOPLE are suppose to decide for themselves and not a tiny panel of flawed judges. Just because you feel strongly about something, that doesn't mean you are right. A democratic process is the best way to fix this imo, but if you believe it should be decided by a tiny percentage of people in government, please lay out your case.