Verify his Muslim Beliefs

The next decades will be interesting balancing the religious freedom of Islam and the rights of their women. Will genital mutilation be OK? It is if you are male and Jewish/Christian. Will it be OK to do to young Islamic females? I would think the courts would have to say clitorectomies would be legal even if the child doesn't have much of a choice about it.

travelingirl wrote: Oh I have faith in the Constitution. I also have faith that Obama is, as in his own words and actions, is on a destructive path to "fundamentally change America".

And yes, the last quote was taken out of context (see below).

But his religion still matters. Once again, I'm not saying he will impose HIS RELIGION - but will allow Sharia Law. The Imam said we're already "Sharia compliant". So we're well on our way!

How are we well on our way? How can he impose Sharia law on us? He cannot. Obama is not a dictator.

Amendment I of the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

If he were to try - and it would be political suicide - it would immediately be struck down by the courts. Why do you think otherwise?

travelingirl wrote: Your disagreeing with how our nation was built doesn't change historical facts. I'll ask again, would you have preferred our Founding Fathers build this nation on Socialist, Communiist, Sharia Law values??

You didn't ask the first time, but of course not. I disagree that there are facts that document that this country was built on Christianity. In fact, it was Washington himself who said that this country was in no way founded on the Christian religion.

travelingirl wrote: The actual quote from the book is from page 261 and is as follows: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

But it still matters...

It does not matter what is his religion.

We disagree and that's fine. I can see that there is not any argument that will convince you that President Obama is not a Muslim and that he is not about to impose Sharia law upon our country.

SS109 wrote: The next decades will be interesting balancing the religious freedom of Islam and the rights of their women. Will genital mutilation be OK? It is if you are male and Jewish/Christian. Will it be OK to do to young Islamic females? I would think the courts would have to say clitorectomies would be legal even if the child doesn't have much of a choice about it.

And such is the stupidity of religion.

This is a perfect example of why so many who are moderate or lean left think the right consists of a bunch of ignorant/paranoid and/or bigoted dolts.

AspenValley wrote: This is a perfect example of why so many who are moderate or lean left think the right consists of a bunch of ignorant/paranoid and/or bigoted dolts.

Geez - it always comes down to this doesn't it? You either don't have the facts or are too lazy to go get them (your own facts, that is) so you stoop to namecalling. Can you disagree with out being so sophomoric in your disagreement? Good grief.

It's obvious Scruffy and I don't agree, but we're at least civil in our disagreements.

As we think you on the left have no clue what your doing to America! Let's see how left you are when Nov elections come..you liberals are so drunk with power, you can't think, hear, or see straight! The people will speak with their votes...

travelingirl wrote:

AspenValley wrote: This is a perfect example of why so many who are moderate or lean left think the right consists of a bunch of ignorant/paranoid and/or bigoted dolts.

Geez - it always comes down to this doesn't it? You either don't have the facts or are too lazy to go get them (your own facts, that is) so you stoop to namecalling. Can you disagree with out being so sophomoric in your disagreement? Good grief.

It's obvious Scruffy and I don't agree, but we're at least civil in our disagreements.

I think AspenValley was referring to me.

outdoor338 wrote: As we think you on the left have no clue what your doing to America! Let's see how left you are when Nov elections come..you liberals are so drunk with power, you can't think, hear, or see straight! The people will speak with their votes...

Meaning? What does this have to do with the subject?

travelingirl wrote:

AspenValley wrote: This is a perfect example of why so many who are moderate or lean left think the right consists of a bunch of ignorant/paranoid and/or bigoted dolts.

Geez - it always comes down to this doesn't it? You either don't have the facts or are too lazy to go get them (your own facts, that is) so you stoop to namecalling. Can you disagree with out being so sophomoric in your disagreement? Good grief.

It's obvious Scruffy and I don't agree, but we're at least civil in our disagreements.

I didn't call anyone names. I pointed out that the OP was a good example of why many people don't have high opinions of the mentual acuity of those who continually repost mass-emailed paranoia emails or similar inneuendo-laden drivel.

Scruffy wrote:

travelingirl wrote:

AspenValley wrote: This is a perfect example of why so many who are moderate or lean left think the right consists of a bunch of ignorant/paranoid and/or bigoted dolts.

Geez - it always comes down to this doesn't it? You either don't have the facts or are too lazy to go get them (your own facts, that is) so you stoop to namecalling. Can you disagree with out being so sophomoric in your disagreement? Good grief.

It's obvious Scruffy and I don't agree, but we're at least civil in our disagreements.

I think AspenValley was referring to me.

No, I was referrring directly to the original post. Sorry for any confusion.