Islamist Tells Hannity: U.S. Will Fall to Sharia

:thumbsup: ..yepper, I smell those sheep......and bad too!

I do not see what the big deal is, this is an ocean away. Baaaaaa

"VEHARI: A 14-year-old girl was killed in Vehari on Wednesday night allegedly by his family for refusing to marry a man they proposed.

Rafia’s father Mukhtar Hussain and an uncle were arrested by Luddan police on Thursday. The police said Hussain and his brothers – former nazim Muhammad Ramzaan and Farasat Hussain – killed the girl by giving her electric shocks."

http://tribune.com.pk/story/113887/14-y ... rs-cousin/

Well its okay then because it is their law. Sick!!!!!

LadyJazzer wrote: Boo!

Ghosts say Boo...witches usually do spells.

LadyJazzer wrote: This is like passing law to outlaw walking your pet giraffe on Broadway in New York City during rush-hour. Doing so would not be conducive to good traffic management or street-cleanliness.....But the likelihood of that happening is zero... So, our outrage-of-the-day is a diatribe of all the terrible things that "sharia law" means, as applied in the Muslim countries, but which has ZERO relevance here... This ISN'T Saudi Arabia.

Just another excuse for your anti-Islamic hatred...

Thanks... Wake me when you're done... :Snooze

I was hoping for an opportunity to get back to the comment you made above but needed a recent example that SC to aptly provided.

You are quick to throw the word hate around.....so I would ask you (respectfully) to tell me where the love is in the stoning of this young couple in Afghanistan? I would also ask if you are alarmed by such acts? Can you see any problem with these fundamental Islamic beliefs being played out in Western society? Or are you happy to snooze and call all this the "outrage of the day"?

TALIBAN SPOKESMAN: 'Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is in the Koran, and that it is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman - but in doing so they insult the Prophet. They want to bring foreign thinking to this country'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l?ITO=1490

Can you concede that it's possible that this sort of thing could find its way into western society if we weren't watchful? I know you can argue correctly that there ARE abusive marriages in the US but right now women have a way out of such abusive situations. I'm not so sure Islam allows women those sort of "escape options".

Amini guesses she's seen at least a thousand self-immolation cases since she started at the hospital 13 years ago—almost all of them young women seeking to escape abusive marriages (PDF) or the prospect of being turned out onto the streets by men who no longer want them. Women have been beaten—or starved, as a controversial 2009 law (PDF) allows some angry husbands to do. Seeing no escape, they choose to engulf themselves in flames.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01 ... hir-herat#

I know you are "outraged" by the former Bush Administration during every waking hour. I'm just curious what else might actually "outrage" you?

lion, a well thought out and written post...LJ will not answer..your post makes to much sense!

LJ is naive if she thinks the threat comes only from extremists. Conversations with educated (MS, PhD, MD) make it abundantly clear they have no use for the West, consider it corrupt and evil and lecture their children to that effect. No the real threat is not from the extremist faction, but from ordinary intolerant muslims. Perhaps you feel secure and have become complacent because there has never been a major war waged on US soil. I believe you will see it in a different form. It will come from within by a voting muslim majority that will put an end to our presently known form of government. Government for the people and by the people will take on a whole new meaning. So it does not matter what you don't fear and what you perceive as hate of Muslims, that has nothing to do with a movement that is already under way, has been for decades and will continue until the mission is accomplished. It need not shed much blood, but I'd love to see you once Islam puts its yoke on your life style and insists you follow its chosen path.

LJ, I doubt you have ever lived in a country where freedom is a foreign word. If you have please enlighten us as how you dealt with it. Oh, one more thing. Once you become a Muslim there is no change of heart until death either natural or otherwise. Think about all the poor people in the US who convert and then tell me if there is a real pending threat. I have many Muslim friends, I do not hate their religion but also know I do not want it for myself, I've spent a third of my life among their culture and I have developed a healthy respect for a wolf when I see one. Even the potential for a muslim majority in the US frightens the hell out of me.

:thumbsup:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: LJ, I doubt you have ever lived in a country where freedom is a foreign word. If you have please enlighten us as how you dealt with it. Oh, one more thing. Once you become a Muslim there is no change of heart until death either natural or otherwise. Think about all the poor people in the US who convert and then tell me if there is a real pending threat. I have many Muslim friends, I do not hate their religion but also know I do not want it for myself, I've spent a third of my life among their culture and I have developed a healthy respect for a wolf when I see one. Even the potential for a muslim majority in the US frightens the hell out of me.

Like I said, "The likelihood of that happening here is zero... So, our outrage-of-the-day is a diatribe of all the terrible things that "sharia law" means, as applied in the Muslim countries, but which has ZERO relevance here... This ISN'T Saudi Arabia. Just another excuse for your anti-Islamic hatred..."

Let me know when giraffes and elephants become a problem in downtown NYC... :Snooze

I don't want ANY religion for myself, Muslim or otherwise. I'm not interested in lame superstitions. But last I heard there was this thing called the First Amendment which gives EVERYONE the right to practice (or NOT PRACTICE) the superstition of their choice. Given the anti-Muslim hysteria in the U.S. it's not bloody likely that they will ever become a majority. But you know what? If they do, and if they are citizens, then they are free to vote any way they choose...Aren't they? Just like nutjob teabaggers and conservatives. I doubt that I would like the outcome of living under a Muslim majority any more than I would like living in a theocracy controlled by extremist teabaggers, but our Constitution provides for that, doesn't it...

rockdoc and I disagree on this topic. However - he and I lived under very different versions of Sharia.

Last time I checked - even the Muslim world is moving away from strict Sharia - and toward a more secular version. The Minister of Justice in the UAE (the example I know of) has credentials in law from Cambridge University. He isn't much of a Sharia scholar. A few years ago, I met Shirin Ebadi - who has the deepest legal thinking I've ever encountered. She works in Iran.

Turkey - a potential model for Egypt (so the jawboners say) - is devout about its secular government (so devout, the public considered it a scandal when Ergodan's wife covers)

That said - I've lived under Sharia - and never really knew the difference.

In fact - the one time I had to deal with Sharia law (minor traffic accident) - it worked out easier than it would have in the USA.

The neocons have erected a fear of something that is:
a) unlikely to emerge in the USA
b) not anything like what it's portrayed to be

As for the gentleman from Egypt - it's wishful thinking and hype.