Facts are so annoying

17 Feb 2011 07:34 #31 by Nobody that matters

navycpo7 wrote: No what you did Nmys is you provided a link to another website the REQUIRES sign up to access. If you can't just post the story then don't post it at all. Should not have to go sign up to look and see what the hell you are trying to talk about


It's simple... He's talking about ArkansasHeadwatersBound.com.

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17 Feb 2011 07:37 #32 by CinnamonGirl
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Baileyboy wrote:

2wlady wrote: Facts without context mean nothing.

So we see two religions. What about country, marital and parental status, education, one or two parents or no parents growing up, economic circumstances growing up, mentors, number of severe illnesses. Let's get some more facts before making such a silly comparison.


rofllol It drives them nuts when their bubble gets burst :lol: Like placing a scorpion in a ring of fire. rofllol Nothing in their programming has prepared them for reality. The above is the statement has the level of confusion of a drunk Matses Indian being dumped in the cockpit of an AB A380 and told to fly it.


Once again call me stupid but what bubble did you burst? What is the reality we are discussing? I find it odd that you can't answer. Is there anyone else that can? Explain it really slow for me. Because I don't get your point. Are you saying that being Jewish over Muslim is a gift from God? Yes or no would work wonders for my getting it. Then I feel we can discuss this. My brain did not wrap itself around what you said and my questions were trying to help me get your point. I am not like others, I don't assume what you are saying. And I do not call names. It does not help with bringing about discussion.

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17 Feb 2011 07:38 #33 by CinnamonGirl
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Nobody that matters wrote:

navycpo7 wrote: No what you did Nmys is you provided a link to another website the REQUIRES sign up to access. If you can't just post the story then don't post it at all. Should not have to go sign up to look and see what the hell you are trying to talk about


It's simple... He's talking about ArkansasHeadwatersBound.com.


Are you guys unable to see posts without signing in? You should be able to.

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17 Feb 2011 07:45 #34 by Mayhem
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CinnamonGirl wrote:

Baileyboy wrote:

2wlady wrote: Facts without context mean nothing.

So we see two religions. What about country, marital and parental status, education, one or two parents or no parents growing up, economic circumstances growing up, mentors, number of severe illnesses. Let's get some more facts before making such a silly comparison.


rofllol It drives them nuts when their bubble gets burst :lol: Like placing a scorpion in a ring of fire. rofllol Nothing in their programming has prepared them for reality. The above is the statement has the level of confusion of a drunk Matses Indian being dumped in the cockpit of an AB A380 and told to fly it.


Once again call me stupid but what bubble did you burst? What is the reality we are discussing? I find it odd that you can't answer. Is there anyone else that can? Explain it really slow for me. Because I don't get your point. Are you saying that being Jewish over Muslim is a gift from God? Yes or no would work wonders for my getting it. Then I feel we can discuss this. My brain did not wrap itself around what you said and my questions were trying to help me get your point. I am not like others, I don't assume what you are saying. And I do not call names. It does not help with bringing about discussion.


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17 Feb 2011 07:54 #35 by FredHayek
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Baileyboy wrote: Okay this has been a great exercise to see how the liberal mind doesn't work. The natural liberal default is to scream racism. Some have suggested it is about culture, others have said it is about religion. I think one said it was about geography and of course the other favorite standbys, economics and education.

Sorry folks, those are all just byproducts. What this is about is people and their intelligence which is directly proportional to the level of synaptic activity or the lack thereof that is going on between their ears. Put simply in Darwin's words, it is evolution. Not physical evolution but social evolution.

Regarding the Jewish people. Per capita there is no other group, race, whatever you want to call it that even comes close to significant inventions that have improved the lives of humans at a global level. I don't think living in a barren desert had anything to do with this. I don't think persecution did this either. I am therefore left with only one other explanation. What I consider the final word on the subject. God said they are his chosen people. Now whether or not you believe in a Judeo-Christian God, I have yet to hear anyone else offer up a more plausible explanation that after more than 2 millenia of persecution and attempted genocides, this group not only prospers instead of going extinct but they still continue to contribute to mankind at levels that far exceed the rest of the world's so called innovators.

If libs would just accept reality the way it is instead of trying to promote their delusion, society would be a lot better off. It may be a terrible thing to waste a mind, but more importantly it is a dangerous thing to assume or promote the idea that all minds are equal.


Nice theory about the Chosen People but you think God would have been nicer to them if they were his folk, centuries of persecution, exile, and genocide, make Jews look more like Job. Even today, they are surrounded by enemies and subject to rocket and terror attacks every week.

And many of the most accomplished Jews are very secular. So I am guessing it is more background and culture than what religion they choose to follow.

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17 Feb 2011 07:55 #36 by Nobody that matters

CinnamonGirl wrote:

Nobody that matters wrote:

navycpo7 wrote: No what you did Nmys is you provided a link to another website the REQUIRES sign up to access. If you can't just post the story then don't post it at all. Should not have to go sign up to look and see what the hell you are trying to talk about


It's simple... He's talking about ArkansasHeadwatersBound.com.


Are you guys unable to see posts without signing in? You should be able to.


I didn't try. Maybe you should just tie all the forums together, with a specific location related forum for each *Bound entity? I'm not going to chase discussions across forums.

Edit: I tried it. Yeah, it's viewable without registering.

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17 Feb 2011 07:59 #37 by Mayhem
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SS109 wrote:
Nice theory about the Chosen People but you think God would have been nicer to them if they were his folk, centuries of persecution, exile, and genocide, make Jews look more like Job. Even today, they are surrounded by enemies and subject to rocket and terror attacks every week.

And many of the most accomplished Jews are very secular. So I am guessing it is more background and culture than what religion they choose to follow.


The name of their religion stems from their tribe. Not the other way around.

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17 Feb 2011 08:17 #38 by CinnamonGirl
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BB you don't seem to have any facts you answer everything with an insult. Interesting that you will not be direct. I now am almost forced to assume what you are saying. I would be glad to 'SEE' what you are saying just give it to me straight.

I will assume (forced to read between the lines) what you are saying. You believe that Jewish race/religion not sure still if I am getting that wrong, is superior. Not sure why. I am guessing (because you wont' tell me) that you believe it is because they are god's chosen people. So, if that is it. I don't care who is chosen and who is not. I accept all people including muslims. I don't judge people as a whole until I get to know them or even talked to someone that has.

I believe your facts may be facts but since we are in the Courthouse I wanted to discuss reasons for your facts. You have shut that down by not discussing, just making accusations that I have no intelligence.

So, I will try to discuss it by what I think you are saying. There are so many factors that go into why a culture, race, country and their religions are more successful (in our eyes) than others. The British were able to try to conquer other countries because they had alot of water around them and needed to build boats. So, where you happen to be born makes a world of difference.

There are amazing people everywhere that work hard to get out of their circumstance and I for one admire those kinds of people far more than someone that had all the breaks and was able to do something with it. I just watched an amazing program about George Washington Carver last night. An amazing humble person, who was a slave and who was offered a 6 figure salary to work with Thomas Edison but turned it down to continue work for 6,000 a year. And alot of the innovations he came up with are still standards today. He came up hundreds of industrial uses for peanuts and soy beans that we still use today in a science lab that was tiny.

I don't look at him as a religious group, race or anything like that. He was an amazing person. And the few Muslims on your list were amazing people as well, I suspect, to be on such a short list. I am not as impressed with those that had everything but they are just as amazing in my eyes. Let's talk about why there is such a discrepancy and look at other socio groups as well to get a good picture of this. Let's talk India, Japan, China etc. The shear numbers makes a difference but they are incredibly successful in some things. Or should we go with just religion. Still not clear if Jewish is a race or religion. In your eyes.

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17 Feb 2011 08:26 #39 by Nmysys
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Navy:

After many tries to get it right, believe it or not, I have figured out how to post a link that by SIMPLY clicking on it, will take you to the article in question. You might try it instead of being so pompous about it. If you don't want to read it, then don't but you are making assumptions!!!!

The article for the lazy ones will explain why there is such a difference between the two RELIGIONS ( CG ) . It discusses the fact that since the 1400s when Mohammed became their major Prophet, they have been INBREEDING and explains all the scientific results that has caused.

If you read it with an open mind, you actually will understand what those effects have been.

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17 Feb 2011 08:49 #40 by Mayhem
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CinnamonGirl wrote: BB you don't seem to have any facts you answer everything with an insult. Interesting that you will not be direct. I now am almost forced to assume what you are saying. I would be glad to 'SEE' what you are saying just give it to me straight.

I will assume (forced to read between the lines) what you are saying. You believe that Jewish race/religion not sure still if I am getting that wrong, is superior. Not sure why. I am guessing (because you wont' tell me) that you believe it is because they are god's chosen people. So, if that is it. I don't care who is chosen and who is not. I accept all people including muslims. I don't judge people as a whole until I get to know them or even talked to someone that has.

I believe your facts may be facts but since we are in the Courthouse I wanted to discuss reasons for your facts. You have shut that down by not discussing, just making accusations that I have no intelligence.

So, I will try to discuss it by what I think you are saying. There are so many factors that go into why a culture, race, country and their religions are more successful (in our eyes) than others. The British were able to try to conquer other countries because they had alot of water around them and needed to build boats. So, where you happen to be born makes a world of difference.

There are amazing people everywhere that work hard to get out of their circumstance and I for one admire those kinds of people far more than someone that had all the breaks and was able to do something with it. I just watched an amazing program about George Washington Carver last night. An amazing humble person, who was a slave and who was offered a 6 figure salary to work with Thomas Edison but turned it down to continue work for 6,000 a year. And alot of the innovations he came up with are still standards today. He came up hundreds of industrial uses for peanuts and soy beans that we still use today in a science lab that was tiny.

I don't look at him as a religious group, race or anything like that. He was an amazing person. And the few Muslims on your list were amazing people as well, I suspect, to be on such a short list. I am not as impressed with those that had everything but they are just as amazing in my eyes. Let's talk about why there is such a discrepancy and look at other socio groups as well to get a good picture of this. Let's talk India, Japan, China etc. The shear numbers makes a difference but they are incredibly successful in some things. Or should we go with just religion. Still not clear if Jewish is a race or religion. In your eyes.


CG I think the best way for you to get it is to get yourself a copy of The Bell Curve by Harvard psychologist Richard J. Herrnstein and political scientist Charles Murray. Maybe if you hear it from people who spent millions$ to reach the same conclusions that common sense dictates you will be awakened. But that is only a maybe.

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