Top Ten Obvious Reasons Why Islam is Not a Religion of Peace

wow trouble, when did you find the time to read the entire Koran? I'm impressed, you never told us you were an expert on Islam and the Koran, and the Bible too.....no where in the Bible does it promote violence? Is this from your own copy of the Koran, or did you copy this info from somewhere else? source please.

Wow, Archer. Remember to take your meds.

Read the Koran and tell us where it says anywhere in it that they are believers in Peace. That is the SOURCE!!!!

Trouble take your arguement to Ireland, she what they tell you about it.

The only document I need to read each day to tell where Islam stands on "peace" is the newspaper. I realize that newspapers have to sell sensational events, but the pain, suffering, hate and terror I read about daily in the Middle East and Asia tell me all I need to know.

kresspin wrote: And no, I can't argue against the facts OP has posted. What I'm saying is that to take an eight-year snapshot of events without including the whole history of the religion is to do the analysis in a slanted way. We could take an eight-year snapshot out of the Crusades and make Christianity look bad or, as I did, from the Old Testament to make Jews look bad.

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Have you liberals no understanding?

Nmysys wrote: Wow, Archer. Remember to take your meds.

Read the Koran and tell us where it says anywhere in it that they are believers in Peace. That is the SOURCE!!!!

I have no desire to read the Koran.....and I have never said or posted anything about it being a religion of peace, or islamists are believers in peace....perhaps you have me confused with someone else, or you are making judgements about me with no facts to base it on. I simply would like to know where trouble got her quotes from since she seemed so concerned earlier about my not giving a source for my opinions, now here she is setting herself up as an expert on the Koran, quoting parts of it, I would like the source for those quotes....wouldn't you too? If they are from some copy of the Koran online....please cite it. If it is from a blog or e-mail, cite that...

And, since I am not as literate on the Bible as others here I asked a simple question. are there no calls for vioilence in the Bible?

I'm not claiming to be an expert in either religion. I posted what I have concluded by doing a little research online and I recently spent an evening listenting to Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, co-founder of Hamas. He grew up in it...he'll tell you the same thing. I want to know what this religion is all about. Here are a few sites I visit:

http://sonofhamas.com/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran ... olence.htm
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... njews.html
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/t ... log-28185/

To answer your question about violence in the Bible, I thought you might find this intereting...I did.

"It is true that the Roman Emperor Constantine, Medieval Crusaders, and Protestants and Catholics have used the sword against unbelievers and each other. However, none of them is foundational to Christianity—only Jesus is, and he never endorses the sword to spread his message.

Christianity has undergone Reform (c. 1400—1600) and has been put under the pressure of the Enlightenment (c. 1600—1800), which demanded peace. Jesus himself never calls for military holy war. He sets the genetic code for his movement. There is not a single verse in the New Testament that endorses or calls for violence to spread the gospel or to plant churches or to accomplish anything else. Jesus says a spiritual sword, not a physical one, may sever family ties, so his disciples must be ready for that."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/10/ ... verse.html

navycpo7 wrote: Trouble take your arguement to Ireland, she what they tell you about it.

Man corrupts everything...including the message of the gospel.

"It is true that Jesus divides the world into two camps, those who follow him, and those who do not, those in the light, and those in the dark. However, he never tells his followers to wage war on everyone else, and certainly not on one's family.

It is true that the Roman Emperor Constantine, Medieval Crusaders, and Protestants and Catholics have used the sword against unbelievers and each other. However, none of them is foundational to Christianity—only Jesus is, and he never endorses the the sword to spread his message. "

http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/10/ ... .htmlsword to spread his message."

so, trouble....like me, what you posted were your opinions from your experiences, what you have investigated and what you have learned through research.....I accept that, it's how we form opinions, my only question is why did you have to insult me for doing the same thing? I could get really snarky here and ask for the exact sources that you quoted from (at least I didn't put out any quotes that I didn't source) but i won't. I asked you to accept my opinions as being educated, learned from many different sources, so even if you couldn't give me that courtesy, I will give it to you.

I'm not sure I agree that the Bible doesn't have a lot of violent rhetoric in it, certainly the old testament (which IS part of the Bible) contains some pretty horrific stuff, but since I am no Bible scholar i won't press that point.

.have a good night.

Sorry - I don't find the critical methods of Islam's critics all that persuasive. (ironic - since I'm a Christian)

Most of the critical methods used in critiques of Islam - if applied even-handed - would also lead to the same criticisms of the Judeo-Christian faith. (I.e. - you would conclude that Christianity is not a religion of peace).

You end up with one of two possible conclusions: a) Both Islam and Christianity are religions of hate; or b) The critical method is flawed. I'm not ready to accept conclusion A (LJ likely would) - so I go with B.

For example - the conquest described in the Quran (see Surah 9) was related to a specific period of time. It is not unlike the Conquest of Canaan in the Bible. Removing the context is proof-texting. As Christians, we don't appreciate having our Bible proof-texted. (i.e. - Joshua - to answer Archer's question). Proof texting - whether applied to the Quran or the Bible - makes fallible conclusions.

I'd note that Islam doesn't have a corner on violence in the world. There are Drug Lords in South America, for example (Catholics, in general) who kill hundreds - maybe even thousands of people annually. There are Hindu extremists in India and Sri Lanka who have raked up impressive body counts, as well. If you go back to the end of the 15th century - Spain (a Christian country) butchered Jews, Muslims, and I'm sure other groups of individuals. Again - we either conclude that both Islam and Christianity are murderous faiths (a conclusion drawn by more than one person) - or we conclude that maybe the murderous actions of adherents don't necessarily match the values of the faith. (my conclusion).

In fact - as Christians - we regularly assert that "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of G-d." -- which is why we can't judge G-d by the actions of His followers. (the universiality of sin argument)