Top Ten Obvious Reasons Why Islam is Not a Religion of Peace

26 Feb 2011 13:16 #1 by Obam me
Here are just a few:

- 14,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last eight years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).

- Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or criticizing his religion. This included women. Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

- Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

- Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah. None of these other religions are at war with each other.

- Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human.

- Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!"
(The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93)

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages ... easons.htm

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26 Feb 2011 14:04 #2 by outdoor338

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26 Feb 2011 14:26 #3 by Rick
But but...remember the couple of Christian guys who killed abortion doctors......

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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26 Feb 2011 16:00 #4 by kresspin
Neither side has any room to brag:

The first is the military conquest of the land of Canaan by the Hebrews (c. 1200 BC), which has increasingly come to be characterized as a "genocide." God told Moses:

But of the cities of these peoples which Yahweh your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them—the Hittite, Amorite, Canaanite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite—just as Yahweh your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against Yahweh your God (Deuteronomy 20: 16-18).

So Joshua [Moses' successor] conquered all the land: the mountain country and the South and the lowland and the wilderness slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as Yahweh God of Israel had commanded (Joshua 10:40).

The "My religion is more peaceful than your religion" argument is really old. Nobody will know who was right (perhaps they're all wrong) until they are dead.

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26 Feb 2011 16:07 #5 by Nmysys
Kresspin:

You turned this into, my religion is better than yours, not the OP.

Can you defend against any of the things that the OP posted or is it just that you are a total non-believer?

You don't have to believe, that is your choice, but it would be interesting if you actually had an argument with what was posted.

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26 Feb 2011 16:53 #6 by Rick
Hey kresspin, how about using examples of the last 20 years? The OP is about what is CURRENTLY happening all over the world. And it's not about which religion is right, it's about acts of terrorism and murder in the name of Islam, and nobody said all of Islam are terrorists but it is a real problem that too many people want to avoid discussing. :can't hear

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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26 Feb 2011 17:03 #7 by major bean
Top Ten Obvious Reasons Why a Skunk Stinks
1. But........a cat stinks too.
2. I once smelled a dead cow that stunk.
3. oh, yeah? Well, pigs stink.
4. Soz yuh mudda!

Liberal logic amazes me.

Regards,
Major Bean

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26 Feb 2011 17:06 #8 by Rick

major bean wrote: Top Ten Obvious Reasons Why a Skunk Stinks
1. But........a cat stinks too.
2. I once smelled a dead cow that stunk.
3. oh, yeah? Well, pigs stink.
4. Soz yuh mudda!

Liberal logic amazes me.

rofllol good one!

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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26 Feb 2011 19:11 #9 by kresspin

Nmysys wrote: Kresspin:

You turned this into, my religion is better than yours, not the OP.

Can you defend against any of the things that the OP posted or is it just that you are a total non-believer?


By arguing one religion is not a religion of peace OP is implying other religions are, thereby implying some religions are better than others.

As a Christian, I follow the examples of Luke and Matthew who said, "Turn the other cheek." It's something that seems to be lost among some Christians. The Koran has similar teachings.

And no, I can't argue against the facts OP has posted. What I'm saying is that to take an eight-year snapshot of events without including the whole history of the religion is to do the analysis in a slanted way. We could take an eight-year snapshot out of the Crusades and make Christianity look bad or, as I did, from the Old Testament to make Jews look bad.

Hindus and Muslims have been fighting for decades in India and Pakistan. Neither has wiped the other out. Islam is the second largest religion in the world.

While criticizing another religion, the writer seems to be arguing that Muslims are fully less than non-Muslims. Is he then going to argue that we should wipe them out before they wipe us out? It's like the Salem witch trials all over again.

Muslims appear to be the new Communists in the new post-911 McCarthyism. To try and subscribe the actions of one group of Islamists as representing all Islam is the same as trying to subscribe the actions of one group of Christians as representing all Christianity. In both religions there are many different types and practices.

And to put a political context on the debate: most of the Islamic crackpots who want to do harm to America seem to have been raised in Saudi Arabia, including the majority of the 9/11 hijackers. How come they're considered our ally? How come our presidents kiss them, stroll hand in hand and bow to them? Is their oil really that important to us?

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26 Feb 2011 20:00 #10 by Obam me

What I'm saying is that to take an eight-year snapshot of events without including the whole history of the religion is to do the analysis in a slanted way.


We can easily judge Islam by what is in the Koran. The passages from the Koran (which is the direct word of God for Muslims) are 100% against the values of the non-Muslims.

For example:


The Muslim Husband can Beat His Wife

Chapter 4:34:

“Men stand superior to women in that God has preferred some of them over others, and in that they expend of their wealth: and the virtuous women, devoted, careful (in their husbands’) absence, as God has cared for them. But those whose rebellion you fear, admonish them and remove them into bed-chambers and beat them/strike them; but if they submit to you, then do not seek a way against them; verily, God is high and great.”


And they don't like Christians and Jews.

A Curse on Christians by Allah until the Day of Resurrection:

Chapter 5:14:

“And of those who say, ‘Verily, we are Christians,’ we have taken a compact; but they have forgot a portion of what they were reminded of; wherefore have we cast among them enmity and hatred till the resurrection day; but God will tell them of what they have done.”

A Cursed by Allah on the Jews until the Day of Resurrection:

Chapter 5:64:

They (Note:the Jews)say,”God’s hand is fettered;” their hands are fettered and they are cursed for what they said; no! His hands are outspread, He expends how He pleases! and that which has been sent down to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in their rebellion and misbelief, for we have cast among them enmity and hatred till the resurrection day.Whenever they light a fire for war, God puts it out; they strive for corruption in the earth, but God lovesn not the corrupt.”



Muslims appear to be the new Communists in the new post-911 McCarthyism. To try and subscribe the actions of one group of Islamists as representing all Islam is the same as trying to subscribe the actions of one group of Christians as representing all Christianity. In both religions there are many different types and practices.


Your analogy is wrong in that Jesus, Paul, Peter, etc., do not give commandments that cause violence against "infidels". Even though there have been many Christians who have committed atrocities, the Christian religion itself is not violent.

If a Muslim doesn't agree with verse about wife beatings, then they are not 100% in agreement with the principle which means they have not “completely entered Islam,” and is with Satan, which is reason for the death penalty.

Our God of the Bible gives us our own free will to enter into a relationship with him - or not. Not so with Islam.

Based on the Koran, Islam is NOT a Religion of Peace.

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