Finally...Teachers Unions Explained

Nmysys wrote: I heard today that the average teacher in Wisconsin makes over 100K with benefits.

You heard wrong.

Factoring in the cost of benefits, it is supposedly just over 101K. What is it then?

Nmysys wrote: Factoring in the cost of benefits, it is supposedly just over 101K. What is it then?

Do you have a link for that? I'd be thinking half the teachers in America would be stampeding towards Wisconsin if that is true.

2010 WISCONSIN TEACHER AVERAGE WAGE AND BENEFITS (remember this is for 9 months of work)

TEACHERS:

Milwaukee $86,297
Elmbrook $91,065
Germantown $83,818
Hartland Arrwhd $90,285

Men Falls $81,099
West Bend $82,153
Waukesha $92,902
Sussex $82,956
Mequon $95,297
Kettle Mor $87,676
Muskego $91,341
(highest teacher was $122,952-lowest was $64,942)

STAFF:

Arrowhead - Bus Mng - Kopecky - $169,525
Arrowhead - Principal - Wieczorek - $152,519
Grmtwn - Asst Princ - Dave Towers - $123,222

Elmbrk Elemetary - Principal - Zahn - $142,315 (primary school)
Madison - Asst Principal - McGrath - $127,835

UNIVERSITY of WISCONSIN STAFF (2009 salary alone):

Michael Knetter - Prof of Bus - $327,828

Carolyn Martin - Chancellor Mad - $437,000

Hector Deluca - Prof of Nutritional Science - $254,877

Source: Madison.com
How about some other "public servant job" ? What do they make?

Madison Garbage men (2009 salary only):

Garbageman, Mr. Nelson earned - $159,258 in 2009, including $109,892 in overtime and other pay.
Garbageman, Greg Tatman earned - $125,598
7 Madison garbage men made over - $100,000
30 Madison garbage men made over - $70,000

MILWAUKEE CITY BUS DRIVERS (salary only):

136 Drivers made more than - $70,000
54 Drivers made more than - $80,000
18 Drivers made more than - $90,000
8 Drivers made more than - $100,000

Top Driver made $117,000

Source WTMJ Radio

In contrast, the average private bus driver makes $9-13 an hour (about $20,000 yr) with no pension, or healthcare.

THEY EXPECT THE TAXPAYERS TO CONTINUE PAYING 100% OF THEIR GENEROUS RETIREMENT

Where did you get that information?

I'm guessing one of those infamous emails?

Well, the "data" you quoted is just a great big lie.

Check out this link, where the low, high and average salaries for all Wisconsin school districts are given. Paints quite a different picture, and unlike your "email", gives the specific source of the information - the school districts themselves. Looks like the average salaries are in the mid $40ks, not exactly lifestyles of the rich and famous territory.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/dataon ... 34649.html

Now ask yourself, why would someone go to all the trouble to send out these bogus emails full of phony information? And why would you people all jump like trout to a fly to believe it with no supporting data? Hmmmmm....

"Well, Ed, I guess the best way to describe this is this is our Pearl Harbor of workers' rights. The Governor has really been out of bounds and this sneak attack in the middle of the night without any public notice, without any input of the hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites that have expressed their views. It's a sad day for Wisconsin. I'm kind of ashamed that this has happened. And I don't know what the governor will do next," State Sen. Tim Carpenter (D-Wis) said from an undisclosed location.

Pearl Harbor? Wow, way to shoot yourself in the foot. Idiot just turned public opinion away from his side with one stupid statement.

The average teacher compensation package in Wisconsin is:

http://dpi.state.wi.us/lbstat/newasr.html

$74,844 - both salary and bennies.

All of these other figures out there are including administrators.

BTW, that is for a Master's degree - I make more than that with an Associates degree.

So does that make you overpaid, or undereducated?

Hmm, probably both. I guess that's up to my employer.

Interesting read on salaries in Wisconsin..shame..shame..shame on you libs!
http://maciverinstitute.com/2010/03/ave ... -100kyear/