Israeli Family Slaughtered by Palestinians

Trouble wrote: Oh my gosh...Have you no heart? Guess we have clear evidence here that you don't.

kresspin wrote: And a family killed in Israel affects me how? We've got our own problems to worry about. I can't worry about Palestinians or Chechnyans too.

More on those peace loving muslims, who by the way, kresspin, have planted themselves right here in America. We have plenty to worry about...they are here and they hate us.

Do we post about any other family from another country killed by someone. I have a heart. I just don't have a bleeding heart for everything that happens in the world. I'd rather work on things I CAN control or try to do something about.

In my everyday life, going to work and shopping and such I have yet to run into a Muslim. I have however run into a bunch of Hispanics that may or may not be illegals. How many Muslims have you come into contact with in the last week?

I never called Muslims peace loving, so I don't know where you got that from.

Good question. I think it depends on if you are a sheep, a sheepdog or a wolf.

If you are a sheep then you really don't have much of anything to be wary of. You can live in a world of bliss in which you can ignore the natural dangers of the world. Other people are keeping you safe so there is no need to be wary.

If you are a sheepdog....well you know the world is not all peaches and cream and there are those who will take advantage of the blissful ignorance of others. You know your task.

If you are a wolf.....well you are hoping there are more sheep and a lot fewer sheepdogs. The more sheep there are...the more opportunities you have. You also know the sheepdog can't be everywhere all the time.....and the sheep are wandering blissfully. All you need is a window of opportunity.

So not everyone has to be wary and some benefit when you aren't.

a) It was murder - there's no way around it.

b) Do you ever wonder what might make someone mad enough to murder his neighbor?
It's not religion --- it's occupation.

In my opinion, we're a little quick to jump to conclusions that somehow this is about religion - and we're happy to blame Islam. I think those conclusions are incorrect. In the past, there's been both Muslims and Christians involved in killings (fewer Christians, since we're generally taught to turn the other cheek - but there are certainly Christians involved).

The back-and-forth killing is about reciprocating fear.

If you have any doubt - read this news article:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... d-1.348879

(I seriously doubt the killing will stop)

Following up on a question by SC ---

I think it's natural instinct to be wary of things..... Fear, if you like.

I've argued elsewhere with friends that our instinct for self-preservation is exactly what drives us to harsh measures - which are responded to by other harsh measures (ergo - what we call a "cycle of violence").

Anthropologists observe these "cycles of violence" all over the world.
Violence is driven by fear more often than hatred. Neither force is biblical.

That's why I support and advocate non-violence (Sami Award, for example - is a Palestinian who is committed to non-violent action). Like Sami, I object to Israel's occupation - and more specifically - their settlement of the West Bank, as well as their systematic repression of Gaza.

However, I do not support the use of violence to counter Israel's occupation.

Another Example of this Peace-Loving Religion!

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Islamic depravity hits bottom. Keeps digging:
Rafah residents hand out candy following massacre of Jewish family, three children in West Bank settlement of Itamar.

Gaza residents from the southern city of Rafah hit the streets Saturday to celebrate the terror attack in the West Bank settlement of Itamar where five family members were murdered in their sleep, including three children.
Residents handed out candy and sweets, one resident saying the joy “is a natural response to the harm settlers inflict on the Palestinian residents in the West Bank.”

Meanwhile, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said he “clearly and firmly denounces the terror attack, just as I have denounced crimes against Palestinians.

“We are against all types of violence,” Fayyad said during a tour in Bethlehem. “Our position has not changed. As we have said many times before, we categorically oppose violence and terror, regardless of the identity of the victims or the perpetrators.”

READ MORE: http://israelifrontline.blogspot.com/2011/03/regional-arabs-hand-out-sweets-in.html

The quick and willing tendency to portray all of Palestine as endorsing these murders is part of the problem. There has been abundant rejection and condemnation of the crime. Yet - sources such as your insist on painting a portrait that acceptance - and even celebration of murder is widespread. In my experience - that image is incorrect.

Another part is the assumption that murders like these are about religion.

A careful study of the issue would likely falsify both assumptions.

Stereotype and hatred is kind of easy (on either side)

Problem is - it won't solve anything.

Science Chic wrote:

Nmysys wrote: Just because you don't see a threat doesn't stop us from being wary of it.

A question: why is it that we always have to be wary of something? It seems a rather unhealthy way to live one's finite life...

But if you are a rabbit with hundreds of animals wanting to eat you, it is a smart way to survive.
And Israel to an extent, is like that rabbit, surrounded by enemies, many much larger like Egypt, you can see why they choose to use their claws sometimes.

Bailey Bud:

As I have replied to you before, you have your experiences and I have mine. I am the product of my heritage. I can remember as a young boy sitting at a table with my sisters, parents, Grandmother, aunts and cousins and writing names on a Blackboard of family members and relatives that died at Auschwitz and other concentration camps.

Things like that have a way of teaching one of what it is like to be the target of people that hate you. Your saying that Palestinians in general don't feel the way portrayed in the article I posted, doesn't convince me personally. No offense intended, but I see a totally different picture, a people that is considered by their Arab Brethren as being outcasts and pawns toward the destruction of Israel, and their actions, attacks of all kinds unimaginable against innocent civilians, teaching their children to be suicide bombers, etc. tells me a totally different story.

Nmysys, the total number of Israelis killed since 1993 in suicide bombings is 786. This is a high number to be sure, but in just one operation, Operation Cast Lead, 1400 Palestinians were killed. Israelis are much more efficient at murder.