Trust us...We'll be safe....

archer wrote: Its hard to get a handle on this.....seems the bigest concern was not oil, but if a half mile of shoreline is affected by new oil it's more than a few gallons. That's why I asked how do we keep track of this stuff, who is watching the drilling rigs....anyone?

In theory at least the federal government is supposed to be watching, monitoring and making sure all the rules are followed, which we know they aren't able to do when so much of their time is spent addressing the individual needs of the person rather than watching over the welfare of the union, which is what this would fall under.

One would suppose archer that this is just another indication that Washington has acquired too much authority to properly tend to all that they have usurped for themselves. That being the case, perhaps the states whose shorelines and fisheries would be damaged should be pooling resources and making sure for themselves that these things are properly attended to since they have the most to lose, with assistance, if needed, from the general treasury of the nation. Perhaps we should also be turning over the authority to issue the permits to them, and the ability to ensure that the safety regulations are being followed, and that the abandoned wells are properly attended to. We would, of course, have to allow them to keep the fees and taxes to provide the revenue necessary to perform these tasks, but as the federal government has proven itself incapable of the task perhaps the paradigm needs to be changed so that we can believe that all that can and should be done is indeed being done. If the inspections are being done by a coalition of forces (Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana & Texas) rather than by a single authority, perhaps there would be less corruption, less cowtowing, less politics involved in general.

Maybe that's part of why an all powerful central government was rejected when the Constitution was written and the areas of responsibility that the federal government was going to be empowered to oversee were so clearly defined?

...as large as 100 miles. "One guy said he was in it for 8 to 10 hours."

Wow, if you can do that with 3.72 gallons of oil, I want some of that for my car....

"One guy said he was in it for 8 to 10 hours."

Maybe he should have started his engine, or put up a sail, instead of floating on the surface with the oil?

Oil does really spread out when it hits water. Just let the microbes eat it. Sun also helps break it up.

jf1acai wrote: I have no idea how much area 3.72 gallons of crude oil would cover as a film on top of water. That could of course be calculated if one knew the thickness of the film.

My point is that I think it is a bit early to be demanding additional inspections etc. of the oil industry until we have some idea of the scope of what we are talking about, and where it really came from.

huh? Actually I didn't see anyone, even me, "demanding" inspections because of this incident, just asking if we already have inspections....or should we have them.....and if so who does it. The last spill was enough to convince me that some oversight is necessary......have we instituted any? Or, do you think that the companies should police their own safety standards? I don't see why we need to wait for another disaster to start asking these questions.....what is that old saying?.....something about closing the barn door after the horse has escaped? Why must we only react to a disaster, but not be proactive in preventing one?

LadyJazzer wrote:
I don't give a sh** if you read it or not...

<<<< She brings up an excellent point...imagine how many pollutants liberals as a whole excrement each day from the food they eat. It's far more than any seeping oil in the gulf.

So far I don't see any evidence that any safety standards have been violated. Until the ongoing investigations identify the source and scope of the oil sheen, I don't see how we can be proactive about preventing it from happening again.

I don't think it would be productive to initiate another government agency to do something, but we don't know what, about something we don't know the size or source of. Once something is actually known, then it will be time to think about what, if anything, should be done.

I noticed that

A third report on Monday of 1.89 gallons of spilled oil was classified by the Coast Guard as "operator error."

Perhaps that could be remedied by better operator training, but I doubt that operator error can ever be completely eliminated.

Nmysys wrote: Soulshiner:

I don't really give a damn whether or not you Liberal pukes join the Tea Party, and since I don't run 285Bound I am not responsible. Both of you can go to hell as far as I am concerned. I am sick and tired of you assholes who think that I won't answer you back. Screw you!!! Damn, it lasted almost a month!!!

This board is full of Liberal Hypocrites!!!

And the true colors reappear. You can say whatever you want, but your words really only expose your true self. Not a pretty picture... As a representative and community organizer of the local Tea Party, your words keep showing what the Tea Party is really about. Thanks, but I think I'll think for myself instead of joining a group that is in denial about their true colors.

And the Drive-By attacker of the Tea Party reappears!!!!

I guess some people can't get enough of me!!! Thanks for the ego boost.

Since you feel that way, when you see my postings about Tea Party meetings that invite everyone to attend, disregard that, as we don't need judgmental Liberal jerks to interrupt our great informative meetings. Gee, you sound like you are part of Park County Government!!

Sounds like someone has a fetish about Park County Government.... :Koolaid: