SOme of What Obama is hiding

There is no proof he wasn't born in the USA...so deal with it...he's the president. All the rumers and speculation are not going to change that. If there was anything valid out there it would be the headline on FOX

But hey... stuff like this keeps the simpleminded occupied.

I found this info on the social security number question:

Numbers are assigned based on the return address on the request envelope, not residency. And Gilbert notes that Obama's father, also named Barack Hussein Obama, lived in Connecticut for several years. "Dr. Conspiracy" at the site Obama Conspiracy Theories hazards the guess that -- assuming the 042-xx-xxxx number really is Obama's -- the president "got his SSN as a child living in Indonesia and the application was just processed in Connecticut."

It's from Huffington Post, which was the first relatively reliable source that came up in a Google search. Almost all the rest were blogs.


Then there's this from May of last year (doesn't seem to be anything more recent than that):

http://www.newser.com/story/88711/birth ... umber.html

Busy, busy day in birther news: First came the Hawaii law making it legal for state employees to refuse repetitive quests for President Obama's birth certificate. (AP has more details.) Then Mediaite takes note of an old-but-new-again angle that soared up the Google trends list today—questioning the president's Social Security number. An Internet rumor (spread, coincidentally, by a site that sells birther stuff) maintains that the president's SSN was issued in Connecticut, in 1890. The Christian Science Monitor also has it.

The proof? Um, it's still coming. Warns Glynnis MacNicol of Mediaite: "Since it’s currently making its way up the Google trends hot list, it might be just the sort of thing to bubble up on cable news between segments as a 'you decide' filler once people get tired of the depressing BP oil video. Or, alternately, will cause Anderson Cooper's head to actually explode on live television."

This is kind of nutty. There are people claiming that Obama has 16, and up to 39, social security numbers.

major bean wrote:

kresspin wrote: One would think, since we're two years after the election, that process has already been completed to the satisfaction of the U.S. Government. The Constitution doesn't say a candidate has to prove their eligibility more than once.

I'm still amazed people actually think someone could forge a document (leave things off that should be there -- according to them) and be able to be certified as a candidate for the highest office in the nation. It doesn't say much for their faith in the U.S. Constitution. According to them, putting a Manchurian Candidate in the White House is remarkably easy. I wonder why one of our enemies hasn't done it before?

THERE IS NO PROCESS. He has not proven his eligibility even once! That is the problem.

If I remember correctly, in order to get on the ballot for the president, a candidate must petition to all 50 states, individually. That's the process. There isn't a single federal procedure.

Isn't it up to each state to determine the eligibility of the candidate?

For example, here is what the State of California required for a Presidential candidate to be placed on the ballot (albeit from 2000, but I doubt it would have changed in 8 years):

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/rep_et_all_pres.htm

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE QUALIFICATION PROCEDURES

MARCH 7, 2000 PRIMARY ELECTION

AMERICAN INDEPENDENT, GREEN, LIBERTARIAN, NATURAL LAW, REFORM, AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES


I. QUALIFICATIONS

The candidate must:

A. Be a natural-born citizen of the United States
B. Be at least 35 years of age, and
C. Be a resident of the United States at least 14 years.
US Constitution, Art. II, §1(5)

II. REQUIREMENTS

There are two basic methods by which a person may have his or her name placed on the ballot as a presidential candidate in the March 7, 2000 Presidential Primary Election:

1. by the Secretary of State as a generally-recognized candidate, or
2. by circulating nomination petitions.

A. Generally-Recognized Candidates

1. The Secretary of State announces the names of individuals he has determined to be generally advocated for or recognized throughout the United States or California as actively seeking the nomination of the American Independent, Green, Libertarian, Natural Law, Reform, and Republican parties for President. Elections Code §§6340, 6520, 6720

a) Criteria for determining "generally-recognized" candidates include, but are not limited to:

(1) Qualification for federal matching funds from the Federal Election Commission;

(2) Appearing on ballots for President in primary elections in other states;

(3) Extensive coverage by the news media as viable candidates;

(4) Inclusion in national or statewide public opinion polls and surveys.

(5) For minor parties, the Secretary of State may also rely on advice and input from the state party chairs.

b) On or before November 8, 1999 the Secretary of State must publicly announce the list of candidates he intends to place on the presidential primary ballot. §§6340, 6520, 6722

c) Following this announcement, the Secretary of State may add presidential candidates to the selection but may not delete any candidate unless the candidate withdraws in accordance with the provisions of Elections Code §§6342, 6522 and 6724. The last day to withdraw is January 3, 2000.

B. Circulation of Nomination Petitions for Candidates not Selected by the Secretary of State

1. Any candidate not selected by the Secretary of State desiring to be placed on the presidential primary ballot shall have nomination papers circulated on behalf of the candidacy. §§ 6343, 6523, 6725

2. To qualify for placement on the presidential primary election ballot, the nomination papers of the candidate must be signed by registered members of the party whose nomination is sought equal in number to not less than 1 percent of the number of persons registered as members of that party as of October 24, 1999. §§6343, 6523, 6568, 6725

3. Each signer of a nomination paper may sign only one candidate's or delegate's paper. The signer shall declare his or her intention to support the candidate or delegation named on the nomination paper or, if applicable, the group of candidates for delegate. §§6361, 6582, 6782

There's a bunch more stuff, but it's mostly about petitions. Boring.

That reminds me that a "natural born" citizen is a child born to 2 natural or naturalized U.S. citizens.

And archer, you still have it ass-backward. We do not have to prove that he is not a natural born citizen, but rather, he must prove that he IS a natural born citizen.

An example: You cannot vote in this county without first proving that you are a resident of this county. You are not eligible to vote until someone proves that you are not eligible to vote in this county. Duh!

Kate, Obama, Sr. did not live in Connecticut. That is misinformation. He lived in Massachusetts. That piece of misinformation has been floating around and is laughable.

archer, if Obama is found to be not qualified to be president, he can be removed from office. Deal with it!

major bean wrote: archer, if Obama is found to be not qualified to be president, he can be removed from office. Deal with it!

hey....no problem.....if it was proven he was not a citizen then I would be A-OK with it, I wouldn't want him as president if he was PROVEN not to be a citizen......but no one, anywhere, in any way has come up with proof that he isn't. So he remains president......deal with it major bean.

major bean wrote: kresspin, here is the gist of what is being questioned.

1. Did Obama claimed citizenship of Kenya whenever he enrolled at Occidental College or Harvard Law School to obtain admission and financial aid? These records have been closed to public access.

2. What citizenship did he use on his passport whenever he traveled to Pakistan? And was he traveling with a U.S. passport for this trip? He said that he stopped on in Kenya whenever he went to Pakistan to visit his mother. His mother was not in Pakistan at that time. Did he go to Kenya to renew a Kenya passport?

These questions are pivotal to his claims of nationality. His birth certificate opens the door to answering these questions about his claims of nationality: Kenya citizenship? or U.S. citizenship?

While as a child he traveled to the ME under the passports of his mother and stepfather Maya Soetoro. What nationality did he claim after his age of majority?

This would also lead into the question of why he is using a Connecticut social security number whenever he has never resided in Connecticut. This hints of identity theft.

Obama has spent several $million to keep these record suppressed so that we cannot find the answers of his nationality. As a private person he has the right to privacy. But he is NOT a private person. He is the president of the U.S. and must show beyond doubt that he is qualified to hold that position.

A natural born citizen is usually one born in the United States. His parents could have been illegals and he would still be a natural born citizen of the U.S. by virtue of having been born in Hawaii.

And here I thought the "gist" of this discussion was that he was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii as claimed. And no, he doesn't have to show "beyond doubt" that he is qualified to hold the position of president. He merely has to meet the guidelines set forth by the government and various states. He is the president. It is up to those who doubt his qualifications to challenge that in a court of law. He provided the document given to him by the State of Hawaii. The State of Hawaii says it's not a fake, it's exactly what they are required to provide and have acknowledged its authenticity.

The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu. . . . The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

He didn't go to Pakistan to visit his mother. he saw his mother and half-sister in Indonesia before going to Pakistan. The birthers screwed this one up as well.

Obama’s certificate of birth meets the U.S. State Department’s requirements for proving U.S. citizenship. That, along with a 1961 newspaper announcement of his birth in Hawaii and statements from state officials in Hawaii, remove for all but the birthers any doubt that Obama is indeed a natural-born citizen of the United States. His school records are irrelevant and have nothing to do with his citizenship, which has been proved to the satisfaction of the U.S. government.

Finally, on July 27, 2009, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.Res. 593, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii's statehood, including the text, "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961." The vote passed 378-0.

P.S. I also believe we really did land on the moon and that Elvis is really dead.

Babies born of illegal citizens are not natural born citizens of the U.S.
Babies born of one U.S. citizen and one non-citizen is not a natural born citizen of the U.S.

The rest of your post is very debatable.

I gotcha. First you argue he wasn't born in the U.S. Then, if he was, he's not a natural born citizen.

Try reading the 14th Amendment, imbecile. If neither of his parents were U.S. citizens and he was born in Hawaii he would still be a natural born citizen.