SOme of What Obama is hiding

I'm thinking he is hiding some of that $$$ by diverting it to other family in other countries so when he retires as prez he will disappear on the island that Osama lives on.

But we got Osama, remember "Mission Accomplished!"???

Martin Ent Inc wrote: I'm thinking he is hiding some of that $$$ by diverting it to other family in other countries so when he retires as prez he will disappear on the island that Osama lives on.

I'm thinking you are full of [fecal material]. And my assumption is certainly as valid as yours is....

well if it is something you are smelling,,, better go to the bathroom. LOL

major bean wrote: Babies born of illegal citizens are not natural born citizens of the U.S.
Babies born of one U.S. citizen and one non-citizen is not a natural born citizen of the U.S.

The rest of your post is very debatable.

That's not true. This is from wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright ... ted_States

Birthright citizenship in the United States refers to a person's acquisition of United States citizenship by virtue of the circumstances of his or her birth. It contrasts with citizenship acquired in other ways, for example by naturalization later in life. Birthright citizenship may be conferred by jus soli or jus sanguinis. Under United States law, any person born within the United States (including the territories of Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the Northern Mariana Islands)[1] and subject to its jurisdiction is automatically granted U.S. citizenship,[2] as are many (though not all) children born to American citizens overseas.

Citizenship in the United States is a matter of federal law, governed by the United States constitution.
Since the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the constitution on July 9, 1868, the citizenship of persons born in the United States has been controlled by its Citizenship Clause, which states:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

So, persons born to illegal aliens in the US are, in fact, citizens. Obama, having been born in Hawaii, is a natural born citizen.


Additionally, having a parent that is a US citizen also gives you citizenship:

Under certain circumstances, U.S. citizenship can be acquired from one's parents. The following conditions affect children born outside the U.S. and its outlying possessions to married parents (special conditions affect children born out of wedlock: see below):

* If both parents are U.S. citizens, the child is a citizen if either of the parents has ever lived in the U.S. prior to the child's birth
* If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is a U.S. national, the child is a citizen if the U.S. citizen parent has lived in the U.S. for a continuous period of at least one year prior to the child's birth
* If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if
o the U.S. citizen parent has been "physically present" in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and
o at least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthday.

It's only been in force since 1868 so Mr. Bean may not yet be aware of it...

Nah...He makes it up as he goes along.

kresspin wrote: I gotcha. First you argue he wasn't born in the U.S. Then, if he was, he's not a natural born citizen.

Try reading the 14th Amendment, imbecile. If neither of his parents were U.S. citizens and he was born in Hawaii he would still be a natural born citizen.

First, I have never said that he was not born in Hawaii. Please try to be clear headed on this subject.

Second, the 14th ammendment dealt with the citizenship of newly freed slaves, and other related matters of the Civil War.

Here is the text of the 14th ammendment. Read it in its entirety. It deals strictly with the civil war.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Here is the link: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/

How does it deal strictly with the Civil War? I understand that it was written and adopted at that time, but is this amendment not valid today because of when it was written? Do you interpret this amendment to deny citizenship to those born in the US? Just asking, because I'm unclear on your point.