Shooting at Arapahoe High School

16 Dec 2013 22:35 #51 by Mtn Gramma

homeagain wrote: Blondie,Mt. Gramma........IF you care to debate INSTEAD of "bait".....then I will response,other
wise....I will NOT engage either of you.....(the effort is NOT worth my time).....the topic is
BRUTALLY painful as it is.....and worthy of a serious discussion.... :smackshead:


Still waiting for your link to where this kid played violent video games. Or a link showing where "and ALL the violence that has been perpetuated onto the public (in Colorado) stems from this".

That's baiting?

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17 Dec 2013 07:07 #52 by FredHayek
Anyone else think they make the trauma worse for the surviving kids by obsessing over it? Maybe we should just shrug our shoulders and get on with living?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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17 Dec 2013 08:18 #53 by Rick

Nobody that matters wrote:

ThePetParent wrote: This is the only way I could load this picture and I protected his identity.
This kid is only 10.
His dad taught him how to hunt at a very early age.
but in the back of my mind I can't help buy wonder...what if?

I hope as he grows he will if not already be taught all the responsibilities that come with handling a gun or rifle. I pray he can deal with conflict and not to resort to gun violence but all the same when I see him in this picture...makes me cringe!


That's not my kid, but...

I was shooting at age 8. I knew what a gun could do. It was available to me at all times, yet I never went out and shot anyone because I was pissed off. I was taught gun safety and had been exposed to what could happen if you disobey the rules.

Some of my favorite memories are from shooting outings. I took great pride in my ability to control the gun, and I had awesome aim, outshooting older kids and adults. It built my self-esteem like nothing else could do except the one other sport I was good at.

Shooting helped build me into the stable and confident adult that I've become.

Don't you dare try to take that away from kids as well.

Sounds exactly like my story when I was growing up in Conifer back in the 70s. I got my ass beaten several times by Mr Teasely's wooden paddle at West Jeff Jr. High... had my own gun, and even had access to and the ability to drive my dad's pickup when I was 13. I had all the ingredients for a shooting spree and a teacher I couldn't stand, but shooting him never crossed my mind.

We were lucky to have two tv channels, no video game, we spoke to each other face to face not text to text, we had field day at school and you got a ribbon if you were in the top 4, and our teachers were allowed to discipline little bastards like me.

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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18 Dec 2013 06:27 #54 by Reverend Revelant
So it seems from reports on Tuesday December 17th 2013 that the shooter had the numbers of certain classrooms, written on one of his arms with a Sharpie. And he also wrote the Latin phrase for "the die is cast" on his other arm.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... burger_bar

He also seems to have a fascination with the "Anarchist Cookbook" and had been studying it for about two years before this incident.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12 ... anual?lite

It seems he had some interesting political beliefs.

"He was friendly enough. Very proud of being a socialist. He was very outspoken on his political views," student Angie Mock said. "To him, it just meant economic -- more economic equality."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... alist.html

"Thomas Conrad, who had an economics class with the gunman, described him as a very opinionated Socialist."

Pierson also appears to mock Republicans on another Facebook post, writing “you republicans are so cute” and posting an image that reads: “The Republican Party: Health Care: Let ‘em Die, Climate Change: Let ‘em Die, Gun Violence: Let ‘em Die, Women’s Rights: Let ‘em Die, More War: Let ‘em Die. Is this really the side you want to be on?”

The Wall Street Journal adds a fellow student’s recollection that Pierson “once wore a shirt emblazoned with the letters U.S.S.R. and described himself as a communist.”

“seemingly supported gun control.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... chool.html

Inconvenient Truths?

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18 Dec 2013 06:52 #55 by Photo-fish
Inconvenient for who? The girl with her head blown open?

You guys are sick.
Give solutions, not blame and excuses.

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18 Dec 2013 07:28 - 18 Dec 2013 09:12 #56 by FredHayek

Photo-fish wrote: Inconvenient for who? The girl with her head blown open?

You guys are sick.
Give solutions, not blame and excuses.

Blame and excuses?
How about trying to understand what kind of human being shoots up a school?
And also getting to see how the press self censors to suit themselves.

Solutions? I don't think there really are solutions. Do you?

PF,
Don't you think it was ethically wrong for the Denver Post to edit words from the middle of someone's quote?
I know doing that on this board is looked down on.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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18 Dec 2013 07:33 #57 by Reverend Revelant

Photo-fish wrote: Inconvenient for who? The girl with her head blown open?

You guys are sick.
Give solutions, not blame and excuses.


You have to know what's wrong to ask before you'll find the solution(s).

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18 Dec 2013 08:20 #58 by Rick

Photo-fish wrote: Inconvenient for who? The girl with her head blown open?

You guys are sick.
Give solutions, not blame and excuses.

I agree, and the next time there's a shooting and it's someone with right leaninng views, the MSM should take your advise. But we all know they won't.

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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20 Dec 2013 08:42 #59 by Reverend Revelant
So... noticehow this story, one week later, has practically died in the national media? I wonder why?

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20 Dec 2013 08:50 #60 by FredHayek
Didn't fit their narrative?
1) A normal shotgun, bought legally and preferred by Joe Biden, was used instead of an AR-15.
2) An armed man in a gun free zone shut down the perp in 80 seconds.
(And how many liberals said more guns wasn't a solution. In this case, it was.)
3) A liberal kid was the shooter not an NRA or TEA Party member.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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