are numbers mounting? OR nothing to see here

08 Mar 2020 10:40 #111 by ramage
HA, you confirmed the common error: "usually the MSM refers to JOHN Hopkins rather than Johns Hopkins." Though I note that the article did state Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.

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08 Mar 2020 10:52 #112 by homeagain

ramage wrote: Thank you for referencing my alma mater, Johns Hopkins University. It should be noted the citation you provided "Johns Hopskins live tracking of COVID-19 Cases " is incorrect. There is no Johns Hopskins University. This is a new variant, in that usually the MSM refers to JOHN Hopkins rather than Johns Hopkins.
Continuing, here are some relevant facts from your reference;
1.
As of Mar. 7, 2020, the flu is showing much more of an impact on Americans than COVID-19. You can find up-to-date information on COVID-19 at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
2.Deaths

COVID-19: Approximately 3,491 deaths reported worldwide; 14 deaths in the U.S., as of Mar. 7, 2020.

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

And now from the CDC:

CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through February 29, 2020, there have been:
34,000,000 – 49,000,000
flu illnesses
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16,000,000 – 23,000,000
flu medical visits
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350,000 – 620,000
flu hospitalizations
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20,000 – 52,000
flu deaths


So it is a misnomer?

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08 Mar 2020 12:10 #113 by ramage
This is getting off topic, butto answer your question, the correct name is The Johns Hopkins University.
It is laziness on the part of the MSM and other to write JOHN Hopkins. I can only think that they thought that JOHNS was a misspelling. It is not. His first name was inherited from his grandfather Johns Hopkins who received his first name when his mother Margaret Johns married Gerard Hopkins.
Johns Hopkins, like Leland Stanford (Stanford Univ) mad his fortune, in large part, in the railroad business.

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08 Mar 2020 12:34 #114 by ramage
Please see my post in the Corona virus thread. In that both threads reference the article in which " Johns Hopskins" is cited, I replied to the wrong one.
Sorry.

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08 Mar 2020 14:17 - 08 Mar 2020 14:27 #115 by homeagain
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...40299423467b48e9ecf6

UPTO DATE map total confirm cases......USA is becoming redder (more cases reported)


www.reuters.com/article/us-health-corona...in-u-s-idUSKBN20V0Z6


BEAR or recession......attempting to access the tea leaves......

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10 Mar 2020 08:22 #116 by ramage
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11

This is your daily reminder that it took Barack Obama until October of 2009 to declare Swine Flu a National Health Emergency

It began in April of ‘09 but Obama waited until 20,000 people in the US had been hospitalized & 1,000+ had died

Where was the media hysteria then?

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10 Mar 2020 09:12 - 10 Mar 2020 09:37 #117 by ScienceChic
This video is just over an hour, but is chock full of good info. Keep in mind this is a panel by the Harvard Kennedy School's Institute of Politics


Harvard Kennedy School's Institute of Politics
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The Institute of Politics hosts a pop-up Forum on the unfolding Coronavirus epidemic. Join Juliette Kayyem, Faculty Chair, Homeland Security Program; Helen Branswell, Senior Writer, Infectious Disease at STAT; and Michael J. Mina, MD, PhD, Assistant Professor of Epidemiology at Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health in a moderated conversation with Rick Berke, Co-founder & Executive Editor at STAT and IOP Senior Advisory Committee Member.


When reading updates about th Coronavirus in the news or from government reports, always keep in mind who is sharing the information, their credibility, and their responsibilities/limitations. FYI, this is why we have a 2nd topic in The Health Forum for only the most credible information and straight facts about this virus; this topic here in the Science Lab under the Courthouse is more for discussion and the political side of it.
Opinion - How to Report on the COVID-19 Outbreak Responsibly
Remember, the virus doesn’t follow the news and doesn’t care about Twitter
By Bill Hanage, Marc Lipsitch, Scientific American Blogs | February 23, 2020

The profusion of information that keeps emerging about the growing COVID-19 outbreak presents challenges for reporters and the scientists they talk to when researching their stories. Good reporting and science have to distinguish legitimate sources of information from no end of rumors, half-truths, financially motivated promotions of snake-oil remedies and politically motivated propaganda.

To help in this effort, we think reporting should distinguish between at least three levels of information: (A) what we know is true; (B ) what we think is true—fact-based assessments that also depend on inference, extrapolation or educated interpretation of facts that reflect an individual’s view of what is most likely to be going on; and (C) opinions and speculation.

The Coronavirus Is Exposing the Limits of Populism
Expertise matters. Institutions matter. There is such a thing as the global community. The system must be made to work again.
Thomas Wright and Kurt M. Campbell, The Atlantic - Ideas | MARCH 4, 2020

During the 2008–09 financial crisis, the stock market, global trade, and economic growth all fell by greater margins than in the same period of the Great Depression of 1929–33. However, unlike in the 1930s, governments set aside smaller disagreements, coordinating domestic policies to save the global economy. The response, not the scale of the initial shock, mattered most. As Daniel Drezner, an international-politics professor at Tufts University, put it, the system worked.

The coronavirus, which causes the disease now called COVID-19, may be another once-in-a-century event. Unfortunately, this crisis occurs in a dark political climate, more similar to that of the early ’30s, when many governments pursued nationalist, beggar-thy-neighbor policies such as the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, and international cooperation was very limited. Over the past decade, the world has grown more authoritarian, nationalistic, xenophobic, unilateralist, anti-establishment, and anti-expertise. The current state of politics and geopolitics has exacerbated, not stabilized, the crisis.

China is not alone in its initial missteps. President Donald Trump, a self-acknowledged germophobe, sees the outbreak through the prism of the stock market and his own reelection. He seems to put pressure on his own officials to downplay the risk posed by the virus. Trump, and some of his officials, have actually said the virus could “have a very good ending for us” or “boost jobs” in the American economy. In South Carolina, Trump said that the virus is under control, and that any notion to the contrary is a “new hoax” by Democrats to get rid of him. But there will be no escaping reality.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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10 Mar 2020 13:10 #118 by homeagain
www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-h...virus-doesn-n1154156


8500 specimens CORONA VIRUS TESTED.....that number does NOT mean 8500 people
tested.....what it means is less than HALF of that number have been tested......the test itself
requires two or possible THREE SAMPLES PER PERSON....the testing system is slow and
is NOT RAMPED UP to a level of competency. The actual picture of the progression of this disease is distorted and UNKNOWN......the system is NOT working,regardless of what the king
is attempting to portray.

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10 Mar 2020 13:22 #119 by homeagain

homeagain wrote: www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-h...virus-doesn-n1154156


8500 specimens CORONA VIRUS TESTED.....that number does NOT mean 8500 people
tested.....what it means is less than HALF of that number have been tested......the test itself
requires two or possible THREE SAMPLES PER PERSON....the testing system is slow and
is NOT RAMPED UP to a level of competency. The actual picture of the progression of this disease is distorted and UNKNOWN......the system is NOT working,regardless of what the king
is attempting to portray.



www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/coronavirus-test...c-director-says.html

HERE IS THE REASON...lack of funding per director.of cdc. the king hacked away YOUR
heath.....watch what happens...

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11 Mar 2020 09:49 - 11 Mar 2020 12:42 #120 by ScienceChic

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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