Perhaps it should be named USS Karl Marx

Perhaps it should be the USS Karl Marx?

To call what the Obama regime does obscene would be an understatement. They ignore patriotism and tradition and glorify everything that is anti American. The Obama regime is about to announce that the last Lewis and Clark cargo ship for the Untied States Navy is going to be named after Cesar Chavez.

Chavez did enlist in the Navy when he was 17. He served for two years and later described it as the most miserable years of his life.

Naming a ship after Chavez ignores the traditions of the United States Navy and is simply a politically correct gesture to honor a leftist who did not particularly love America.

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http://www.teapartynation.com/forum/topics/perhaps-it-should-be-the-uss

A simple google search shows that it is the NAVY that decided to name a ship after Chavez, I can't find any support for the accusation that this is Obama's idea, his only part in this is to announce it. and I can't read the link in the original post because it asks for me to sign in, and I would really rather not join the Tea Party Nation just to read the article.

The Tea Party Nation must be having another slow news day... I guess Gingrich's gaffs aren't enough to keep them amused.

"Starting at the beginning of the 20th Century, the Navy's ships were named in accordance with a system, tailored to ship types. Names of states, for example, were borne by battleships. Cruisers were named for cities while destroyers came to be named for American naval leaders and heroes, as today's destroyers are still named. Starting in 1931 submarines were named for "fish and denizens of the deep." As World War II ship construction programs included new types of ships requiring new name sources; and other classes required a modification of existing name sources to meet a perceived shortage of "appropriate" names. Mass-produced antisubmarine patrol and escort ships were named in honor of members of the naval service killed in action in World War II. Some were named for destroyers lost in the early stages of that war. Ships lost in wartime were normally honored by having their names reassigned to new construction. During World War II the names of individuals were once again assigned to aircraft carriers. "

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/names.htm

My business is on Morrison rd in Denver, it's been Morrison Rd. for as long as I can remember. Now they (I think it's councilman Paul Lopez) want to rename it Cesar Chavez Blvd. If they really want to be accurate, they should name it Little Mexico Blvd, Grafitti Blvd, or Criminal Avenue. Fortunately I'm sick and tired of the diseased area and will be leaving with a smile before the end of the year.

As for the name of the ship, I can think of many great American citizens that would do it more justice.

CriticalBill wrote: As for the name of the ship, I can think of many great American citizens that would do it more justice.

Wouldn't that be true of almost any name they chose for a ship?.....ask 1000 people what the next Navy ship should be named and you will get at least 800 different answers. In the whole scheme of things does it really matter what they name the ship as long as the Navy had adequate reason for choosing it?

There is a political component to selecting ship names but this is no big deal for me. Besides it is only a USNS ship not like it is the real thing.

It's a kiss-up to the Hispanic community to garner votes, no matter what the article says.

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Congressman Prefers Fallen Marine as Name on Navy Cargo Vessel

By Stephen Clark

Published May 18, 2011

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Marine Corps Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who died in Iraq, has been mentioned as an alternative to Cesar Chavez for the name of a cargo ship under construction in San Diego. (U.S. Marines via AP)

Marine Corps Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who died in Iraq, has been mentioned as an alternative to Cesar Chavez for the name of a cargo ship under construction in San Diego. (U.S. Marines via AP)

The Navy's decision to name a cargo ship now under construction after labor activist Cesar Chavez has drawn sharp criticism from one veteran lawmaker who says that a military war hero should receive the honor instead.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, said he understands the Navy's desire to honor Hispanic leaders, but the Navy may want to skip the politically divisive names and opt for an outstanding service member.

"If this decision were about recognizing the Hispanic community's contribution to our nation, many other names come to mind, including Marine Corps Sergeant Rafael Peralta, who was nominated for the Medal of Honor for action in Iraq. Peralta is one of many Hispanic war heroes -- some of whom are worthy of the same recognition," said Hunter, a Reserve lieutenant in the Marines who says he was informed of the decision by Navy officials Tuesday

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/18/congressman-blasts-navy-naming-ship-cesar-chavez/#ixzz1MkQe8tNZ

I guess I should amplify and admit I do have a USS chip on my shoulder.

The key word in the below is civilian.


"United States Naval Ship or USNS is the prefix designation given to non-commissioned ships that are property of the United States Navy. These are usually auxiliary support vessels owned by the US Navy and operated by Military Sealift Command that are in service and crewed by civilians rather than Navy personnel. In comparison, US Navy ships commissioned into service have the designation USS and are crewed by US Navy personnel; commissioned and held in property by the United States Government"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Ship

Nmysys wrote: It's a kiss-up to the Hispanic community to garner votes, no matter what the article says.

Why would the Navy be kissing up to the hispanic community, unless they are looking to attract more hispanic Navy recruits? What kind of hispanic votes would the Navy get anyway?