For or Against?

BearMtnHIB , I know you don't like me, but bashing someone who happens to agree with you seems like you are just looking to attack me, personally, no matter what I post.

I like ya just fine- just don't like your politics.

Listen, this we could find money for- if we need money for it.
I don't think we do need any more money- like I said we already have vast resources for this and we just need to put them to work.

We already have a military and every state has national guard- we already pay for those too- and if anything needs guarding, it's our southern border.

BearMtnHIB wrote:

BearMtnHIB , I know you don't like me, but bashing someone who happens to agree with you seems like you are just looking to attack me, personally, no matter what I post.

I like ya just fine- just don't like your politics.

Listen, this we could find money for- if we need money for it.
I don't think we do need any more money- like I said we already have vast resources for this and we just need to put them to work.

We already have a military and every state has national guard- we already pay for those too- and if anything needs guarding, it's our southern border.

I agree.....we do have the means, but we don't use them unless the powers that be in the house and senate put a bill out there to actually do something and to appropriate the money to that issue. It doesn't help that the military is occupied elsewhere, along with a portion of our national guard......but I am a firm believer in using the guard here at home....not on foreign soil....it is the NATIONAL guard after all. Before you ask....yes I am against Obama keeping our troops occupied overseas.

It's all about the border.....get it secured, then the rest can be addressed in a more meaningful way. Sending thousands back to Mexico....or wherever, so they can come back, is not cost effective.

Your right - it's a lack of political will to deport them, but this is what needs to happen until our economy gets going again and that could be 5 years or more.

Americans need whatever work is being taken from us illegally- and we need all the government funding spend to subsidize illegal’s for Americans right now. Our schools need whatever funding is being used to educate illegal's children- to educate our own children right now. Our health care system needs whatever money is being diverted for healthcare for 28 million illegal’s- to treat our own citizens who don't have the money right now.

Like I said- this is a "shovel ready" project if there ever was one.

If nothing else- we should use every resource we are already paying for to start them on their way home.

US Deportation Rates Reach Record Highs
Los Angeles 10/07/2010 09:49 AM GMT (TransWorldNews)

The White House released a statement on Wednesday saying that in the last year, the Obama administration has deported a record-setting high number of illegal immigrants from the US. The announcement said that more than 392,000 illegal aliens had been deported, half of them convicted criminals.

Obama's deportation rate surpasses numbers from Bush administration

PHOENIX -- The Obama administration is deporting more illegal immigrants than even before, undermining blasts by Republicans, including Gov. Jan Brewer, that it is failing in its duty to deal with the problem.

Statistics put together by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University show that more illegal immigrants were removed from the United States during the first nine months of this fiscal year than during the same period in 2008. That is when Republican George W. Bush was in the White House and his administration controlled Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

In fact, the number of those ejected from the country between Oct. 1, 2009 and June 30 of this year is nearly twice as much as it was in the same period ending June 30, 2005.

Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration

In a bid to remake the enforcement of federal immigration laws, the Obama administration is deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants and auditing hundreds of businesses that blithely hire undocumented workers.

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office.

The effort is part of President Obama's larger project "to make our national laws actually work," as he put it in a speech this month at American University. Partly designed to entice Republicans to support comprehensive immigration reform, the mission is proving difficult and politically perilous.

Obama is drawing flak from those who contend the administration is weak on border security and from those who are disappointed he has not done more to fulfill his campaign promise to help the country's estimated 11 million illegal residents. Trying to thread a needle, the president contends enforcement -- including the deployment of fresh troops to the Mexico border -- is a necessary but insufficient solution.

Tell us, O Captain Marvel, what other lies about the Obama administration and the deportation of illegal aliens do you have for us today?

So LJ, do you think Obama will mention that he is big on border control and the champion of deportation during the next election? Do you think the MSM will do it for him or will they also realize it may hurt the Hispanic vote?

As for those stats, I'm sure there IS a correlation between the recent violence in Mexico coupled with our bad economy. And for those who think it's no big deal that illegals are not deported, the first LJ quote says that half of the aprox 400k illegals are convicted criminals. That's 200,000 criminals that have been caught, how many more are out there that have eluded our Swiss Cheese enforcement? And when times get tougher, those numbers will skyrocket. Time to shut the door and only open it for those who we give a key. Our military needs to come home and train along the border where they are needed.

Which Captain Marvel are you refering to? Me I guess.

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007.

Woha! 10% above Bush's numbers? In 2008- they must mean the 2008 before the recession hit- back when our economy was still creating jobs. The circumstances have changed dramatically since 2008. In fact in 2008, I was on the other side of this issue. Things have changed.

So Obama has deported 10% more than Bush- 3,920 more illegals. Big whoop- that wouldn't even fill up 1/3 of Red Rocks at a Julio Iglesias concert.

400,000 deported is about 0.014% of the problem- in other words 99.986% of the problem remains unaddressed, and it sounds like half of the 0.014% were arrested doing other crimes! Come on LJ- they are not trying very hard to address this problem.

That's last year's total, for 2009... So, he's deported a lot more since then... So, he's already outstripping Bush & the GOP's numbers in rather large quantities... You all have fun trying to spin it while accusing him of not doing anything...

God, I could sit and watch this b.s. for hours...

(PS: Those numbers also don't account for the number of illegals who have "self deported" because of the audits, raids and stepped-up enforcement that is drying up the jobs that they came here for...)

God, I could sit and watch this b.s. for hours...

And you do!

Yeah, when you have a never-ending supply of it from yourself and few of the other knuckle-draggers, it can really be fun.

BearMtnHIB wrote:

God, I could sit and watch this b.s. for hours...

And you do!

Somebody has to keep the goose steppers marching in line. J/K