Was John Quincy Adams A "Founding Father"??

29 Jun 2011 09:58 #1 by Wayne Harrison
Some people get John Quincy Adams confused with his father, John Adams.

J Q Adams was 9 when the Declaration of Independence was signed but Tea Party favorite Michelle Bachman insists Adams was a "founding father" and was actively involved as a child in the Revolutionary War. (No, that was his father, John Adams)

Now, some of her fans are giving her the Sarah Palin treatment by trying to rewrite history and insert "a founding father" in Adam's Wikipedia bio. (maybe he could be a "founding child"??)

Bachman continues to insist that the nation's Founding Fathers "worked tirelessly to end slavery." (No, that was the Civil War, not the Revolutionary War, Michelle)

Props to her for admitting she referred to the wrong John Wayne in Waterloo, Iowa. She meant John Wayne, the actor, but ended up referring to John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/bach ... 38713.html

It's going to be an extremely interesting presidential campaign this time around.

I can't help but wonder if she was elected president, if there would be a giant Alien-type egg in the Oval Office where she would birth her spawn.

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29 Jun 2011 10:02 #2 by FredHayek
Not all, but some of the founding fathers were against slavery. Anti-slavery laws were quickly passed in the northern states.
Was JQA a founding father? Maybe not, but he was an early President.

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29 Jun 2011 10:18 #3 by Wayne Harrison
Sure, he was an "early president" but did our founding fathers "work tirelessly to end slavery"?? Washington and Jefferson were both slave owners.

I do agree with her on one issue: end the minimum wage to get people back to work.

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29 Jun 2011 10:45 - 29 Jun 2011 11:01 #4 by The Viking
Was just waiting for a left winger to post this. I will bet if you took a poll of all Americans that at least 50% would think he was a founding father. In fact in our highly under educated society, I will bet it is closer to 80%. But what is so funny about all of this is the liberal media. They jump on little gaffes that Republicans make that most Americans wouldn't have even known were wrong. But when it comes to Obama, they let the stupidest comments slide, and HE is running this country! So tired of the libs jumping on people for minor misstatements but ignoring our President who is a total embarassment.

Just a few......

He visited 57 states

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Our Constitution was written '20 centuries' ago! We have been here 2000 years?

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He laughs at the fact that he took $1 trillion and didn't have shovel ready jobs like he said.

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He thinks Europe is a country?

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Did he have a stroke here?

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He thinks is Austrian is a language?

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He can't pronounce corpsman.... calls them corpse-men

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He compares America today to the Nazi's.

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He makes fun of the Bible

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Here is a lot of them in one video.

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Claims he is a Muslim

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Lied about his uncle serving in Aushwitz

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Has to use a teleprompter to talk to 6th graders

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Making fun of the Special Olymics

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Farts on live TV....

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Love this compilation..... and this is just one interview!

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29 Jun 2011 10:48 #5 by Martin Ent Inc
JQA did help in the War, heard from a reliable source he was The Waterboy.

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29 Jun 2011 11:03 #6 by PrintSmith
In their rush to play "gotcha" the complicit media regularly overlooks things that are well documented in the annals of our history - Revere's own writing testifying as to the accuracy of Palin's remark about him warning the British is only one of the many recent examples that have recently occurred.

Let's see here, If JQA was 9 years old in 1776 when the war started that would have made him around 20 at the time of the Philadelphia Convention where the Constitution was drafted. He accompanied one of the first delegations of a new nation, at the ripe old age of 14, as secretary to the man sent to Russia. His law apprenticeship was served with a man (Parsons IIRC) who was a member of the Massachusetts committee that ratified the federal Constitution and who is credited with writing the Conciliatory Resolutions during the time that JQA was serving his apprenticeship with him. How many of the media, do you suppose, are aware that the Conciliatory Resolutions were essentially the first proposed amendments to the Constitution? Do you think that as an apprentice to a lawyer who wrote the Conciliatory Resolutions that JQA had no hand in assisting the man he was serving as an apprentice to? You don't think his accompanying his father when the elder Adams served as the nation's envoy to France and the Netherlands might have influenced any of the conversations with the man he was apprenticed to or provided any contributions to the resolution the man is credited with?

We need not mention that he was the chief architect of the Monroe Doctrine as well, do we? That was within what, 30 years of the adoption of the Constitution and one of the earliest foreign policy stances the nation adopted by the fifth president of the US? He served as minister to the Netherlands under Washington, minister to Prussia under his father, where he negotiated a treaty with that nation and this one, minister to Russia under the 4th president, Secretary of State under the 5th one and was the chief negotiator of the Treaty of Ghent that put an end to the War of 1812.

Yeah, I'd think his long list of accomplishments during the infancy of the nation qualifies him as a founding father. Of course we can't expect that a media more interested in demagoguery than history to do even a tiny bit of research before they write "all the news that's fit to print". Especially when they are trying to demagogue someone on an issue, slavery, that they wish to continue their misinformation campaign on. JQA did work tirelessly to end slavery during his tenure as a Senator during the Jefferson administration, during his own administration and in the 17 years representing Massachusetts in the House of Representatives following his administration. His opposition to slavery is so well known that the only ammunition available to perpetrate the fraud is to take issue with the idea that JQA was a founding father.

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29 Jun 2011 11:05 #7 by The Viking

WayneH wrote: Sure, he was an "early president" but did our founding fathers "work tirelessly to end slavery"?? Washington and Jefferson were both slave owners.

I do agree with her on one issue: end the minimum wage to get people back to work.



I am surprised that you are breaking from the left and agreeing with her on ending the minimum wage. I respect you for that. So I am wondering what the other liberals on here think of that one?

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29 Jun 2011 11:17 #8 by Wayne Harrison
Desperate times call for desperate measures.

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29 Jun 2011 14:35 #9 by LadyJazzer
When you realize you have stupid stuff falling out of your mouth, double down...

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29 Jun 2011 14:38 #10 by Kate
John Quincy Adams was the son of a founding father.

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