Was John Quincy Adams A "Founding Father"??

29 Jun 2011 14:49 #11 by LadyJazzer
No, at 9 years old, is not "qualified" to be a "founding father"...Unless, of course, you're twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to create cover for Bachmann, Palin and those other history-morons....

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29 Jun 2011 15:17 #12 by FredHayek
Well, JQA was 20 years old when the Constituition was ratified and I would consider the men who argued over that document to be founding fathers too.
(I know John Quincy Adams had little to do with the 3/5th slave rule.)

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29 Jun 2011 15:36 #13 by LadyJazzer
Doesn't change the fact that it's total bullcrap to say "Our Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery", when Washington, Jefferson, et all, owned them, and were, in some cases, breeding with them, does it? If the best you got is to hang your hat on 9-yr-old JQA, then it's still a joke.

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29 Jun 2011 15:54 #14 by 2wlady
There goes PS again, "we need not mention" and then he mentions it.

I guess the tea patsies are adding to the list of Founding Fathers and removing a bunch of the southern "fathers."

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29 Jun 2011 17:18 #15 by PrintSmith
How about Andrew Jackson - the president after JQA - was he a founding father of the nation? He fought as an irregular soldier during the War for Independence, and also fought in the war that JQA negotiated the treaty to end. JQA was serving this nation under its first president, its second, fourth, fifth, was elected as the sixth and continued to serve the citizens of his state for 17 years after the end of his presidential term. He was not like the presidents of today who view that post as the last job they will ever hold.

Just so we know what the regressive parameters are, what constitutes a founding father in your eyes? Is it the age of the person when the shooting started, the contributions that they made in the years before the revolution kicked off? When did the official regressive founding father era end precisely?

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29 Jun 2011 17:37 #16 by LadyJazzer
No... He was not...


Oooo.... There's that word "regressive" again... That gets me hot... :lol: rofllol

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29 Jun 2011 17:43 #17 by Blazer Bob

LadyJazzer wrote: ... That gets me hot... :lol: rofllol


I thought it was teabagger, you use it so often.

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29 Jun 2011 17:45 #18 by LadyJazzer
...If the shoe fits.... (and it does....)

Just like certain parties on this board continually use the word "socialists" ...

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29 Jun 2011 17:49 #19 by Wayne Harrison

PrintSmith wrote: When did the official regressive founding father era end precisely?


I'd give more weight to your posts if you'd refrain from the buzz words. They clearly show you have an agenda and therefore your findings are called into question.

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29 Jun 2011 17:57 #20 by Blazer Bob

WayneH wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: When did the official regressive founding father era end precisely?


I'd give more weight to your posts if you'd refrain from the buzz words. They clearly show you have an agenda and therefore your findings are called into question.

rofllol

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