Why scaring grandma won't work

13 Jul 2011 16:39 #51 by conifermtman

Kate wrote:

conifermtman wrote:

Kate wrote: So, it's the Senate's fault that the Republicans aren't creating jobs jobs jobs. What a bunch of whiners. Nice deflection.


That is reality. Why don't you call our senators and tell them to have Reid bring up the bills for a vote? What's stopping you?


What's stopping the House Republicans from doing that? After all, they promised jobs jobs jobs. Why can't they do what they promised?


Considering your response, you need a basic high school civics lesson or at least you should have paid attention during it.

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13 Jul 2011 16:46 #52 by Kate
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conifermtman wrote:

Kate wrote:

conifermtman wrote:

Kate wrote: So, it's the Senate's fault that the Republicans aren't creating jobs jobs jobs. What a bunch of whiners. Nice deflection.


That is reality. Why don't you call our senators and tell them to have Reid bring up the bills for a vote? What's stopping you?


What's stopping the House Republicans from doing that? After all, they promised jobs jobs jobs. Why can't they do what they promised?


Considering your response, you need a basic high school civics lesson or at least you should have paid attention during it.


You do realize that politics is the art of compromise, right? I mean, you can google it to see if I'm right, and if I'm not, then you can be even more rude and condescending.

What's keeping the House Republicans from talking with the Senate and coming up with a deal to fulfill their campaign promise of job creation? Why aren't they doing their job? Could it be that they want the economy to tank so that they can campaign some more on creating jobs, but now they have to have control of two branches in order to do that?

The messiah Reagan didn't have control of Congress, yet he managed to govern and get his programs implemented. Why can't the House Republicans?

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13 Jul 2011 17:54 #53 by Soulshiner
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13 Jul 2011 17:57 #54 by Martin Ent Inc
As the National Inflation Association writes:
"U.S. government deficit spending is now directly leading to U.S. inflation that will destroy the standard of living for all Americans."
Why then doesn't the Government just cut deficit spending?

Obama promised to halve the budget deficit in his first term. Instead, it's grown by 262%.

But the problem is bigger than that...

If you add up the National Debt and all of the money owed for Social Security and Medicare, then our real "fiscal gap" is more like $202 trillion, according to Boston University economics professor Laurence J. Kotlikoff, who analyzed Congressional Budget office data.

So you see, there's no amount of money in existence that we can cut to pay back what we owe...

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13 Jul 2011 17:59 #55 by LadyJazzer
You mean the inflation that has been so low that there's been no cost-of-living adjustment in two years? THAT inflation? Got it....

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13 Jul 2011 18:03 #56 by Martin Ent Inc
The Government tells us the real rate of inflation is 2-3%. The fact is, according to the way we used to calculate inflation – prior to 1980 and prior to all of these "tweaks" the real rate is around 9.6%, says John Williams, a statistician and Fortune 500 consulting economist.

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13 Jul 2011 18:12 #57 by LadyJazzer
Oh, well, maybe Mr. Williams can convince the Social Security Administration to bump the rate up...

It sure is amazing how that inflation-rate rises and falls as is required for the conservatives to have it support whatever silly-assed argument they're currently making... Who knew?!?

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13 Jul 2011 18:55 #58 by PrintSmith

Kate wrote: You do realize that politics is the art of compromise, right? I mean, you can google it to see if I'm right, and if I'm not, then you can be even more rude and condescending.

What's keeping the House Republicans from talking with the Senate and coming up with a deal to fulfill their campaign promise of job creation? Why aren't they doing their job? Could it be that they want the economy to tank so that they can campaign some more on creating jobs, but now they have to have control of two branches in order to do that?

The messiah Reagan didn't have control of Congress, yet he managed to govern and get his programs implemented. Why can't the House Republicans?

And 30 years later the Democrats and regressives are still blaming him for the deficits that resulted from Reagan compromising with the Democrat majority in Congress to get a portion of what he wanted. The Department of Education still exists, at a current annual cost of $64 Billion or so despite his pledge, written into the Republican platform that year, to abolish it. Just think, had he been successful in getting it abolished 30 years ago as he wanted, we could well owe at least $1 Trillion less than we do now. The Demagogue Democrats also shrilly cried that he was going to ruin Social Security, just as they are doing now with Ryan and Medicare. They did the same when Bush attempted to move it away from its Ponzi foundations and start turning it into actual private accounts for each individual 8 years ago.

Massive deficits are what you get when you compromise with Democrats. President GHW Bush lost an election after compromising with them on tax hikes. Reagan is blamed for the creation of massive deficits for his compromising with them. Bush 43 is saddled with the $1.5 Trillion in deficits accumulated while the Democrats completely controlled the purse strings his final two years - even though you yourself stated earlier in another thread that "The House of Representatives holds the purse strings." Obama and the Democrats who controlled both houses of Congress for 4 years are still blaming Republicans for their deficit decisions even though for most of the first 2 years Obama occupied the White House they had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and an overwhelming majority in the House - ringing up deficits north of $1 Trillion for each of those years and punting on even attempting to pass any kind of a budget before the 2010 midterms. They also got blamed for not achieving their promises when the compromised earlier this year with the Democrats for the remaining budget for fiscal 2011 after both houses of Congress, with Democratic majorities in both houses, failed to pass any kind of a budget for that fiscal year at all.

As President Obama famously remarked during the publicly held summit on the health care bill, "The elections are over John." The elections are over Mr. President and the citizens of the states elected a large majority of Republicans into the House of Representatives and chopped the majority of Democrats in the Senate down as well. They sent these representatives to Washington to make a substantial dent in the current federal spending levels and not raise taxes. The election is over, your agenda took a shellacking and it is time for you to stop ignoring the will of the people and imposing the will of your party instead.

And it is time that the Republicans learned that every attempt to compromise with the regressive Democrats results in them blaming the Republicans for everything that goes wrong. If they are going to shoulder the blame, they might as well shoulder it for standing on their principles and doing the job they were sent there to do instead of having to shoulder it because the compromise they made with the Democrats failed yet again. Stand your ground, pass the House version of raising the debt ceiling and make the Democrats actually do something legislatively for the first time in over 800 days with regard to the fiscal situation of the federal government.

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13 Jul 2011 19:08 #59 by PrintSmith

LadyJazzer wrote: You mean the inflation that has been so low that there's been no cost-of-living adjustment in two years? THAT inflation? Got it....

You mean that gasoline costs aren't higher than they were two years ago? Food prices haven't gone up significantly during that time span either? What color is the sky in the world you live in LJ? It can't be blue, because those of us living under that sky are well aware of the inflation that has occurred in the last 2 years for health insurance costs, fuel, food, cotton and a whole lot of other things.

The inevitable result of following Keynesian economics is inflation. That is why the median family income is north of $40K a year right now instead of under $10K a year as it was in the 1960's. In 1940 the average price of a new home was about $4K, not $224K. The high periods of inflation experienced in the 1970's and early 1980's that wiped out the savings of most of the middle class during that time frame are a direct result of the same kind of gross overspending by the federal government that we are witnessing today. Double digit annual inflation. 13% to 15% APR being a "good rate" for a 30 year mortgage. A doubling of the privilege taxes and the income subject to those taxes to pay for the inflated costs of Social Security and Medicare. Keep advocating that the Democrats continue to do what they've been doing LJ, and you, along with all of us, will get to live through it all over again to refresh the national memory on just how bad it was.

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13 Jul 2011 19:24 #60 by LOL
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