IT'S THE REPUBLICANS ECONOMY NOW

Yeah, yeah....and the recession was all the Democrats fault, and the housing bubble and mortgage mess were all the Democrats fault, I'm sure 9/11 was all the Democrats fault, I'm quite sure you think that Pearl Harbor was the Democrats fault, all the way back to when this nation was born, everything bad that has ever happened to this country was the fault of the Democrats. You've been singing that same tune forever Viking.....and ya know what? you're wrong. But thanks for proving the point that conservatives don't take responsibility for their own actions.

The Viking wrote:

netdude wrote:

mittra303 wrote:

We keep blaming George W Bush for so many of the nation's troubles because quite simply, he is to blame. Of the $14.3T debt, he's responsible for almost 1/2 of it (42.66%).

Dang it mittra303, you can't even begin to use facts with some of the folks on this board, they start calling you names and insulting you.... then deflect, deflect, deflect.....

And it proves my point. The majority of that $6.1 trillion whas after 2007 when the Dems took over congress and this is an old chart. obama's number isn't close to right as everyone shows he has $3.7 trillion under him. So the biggest chunk of that all came under Democrat controlled congress. You want to blame the Tea Party and congress now but under Bush you just want to blame the President. Interesting how you guys do that.

All any President has to do is VETO legislation that he deems CRAP. You do know that. Right? That applies to Obama as well.

archer wrote: Yeah, yeah....and the recession was all the Democrats fault, and the housing bubble and mortgage mess were all the Democrats fault, I'm sure 9/11 was all the Democrats fault, I'm quite sure you think that Pearl Harbor was the Democrats fault, all the way back to when this nation was born, everything bad that has ever happened to this country was the fault of the Democrats. You've been singing that same tune forever Viking.....and ya know what? you're wrong. But thanks for proving the point that conservatives don't take responsibility for their own actions.

You know, archer, I blame the desperation that Viking and others display in HAVING to believe that the Dems are responsible for all evil on the way that fundamentalist Christianity got all tangled into politics. With fundamentalist Christians, it's very black and white. There are "us", the "believers" who are "God's Children" and therefore "good" and there is everyone else, the non-believers, who by definition must be of "Satan" and therefore "evil". Once that kind of a mindset crept into politics it was only a matter of time before you saw this extreme polarization. There is only "us" (Godly) and "them" (Satanic) to people who think like that.

They utterly fail to realize that politics is just a bunch of ideas, some good, some not so good, and not a simplistic moral system of "good vs evil".

AspenValley wrote:

archer wrote: Yeah, yeah....and the recession was all the Democrats fault, and the housing bubble and mortgage mess were all the Democrats fault, I'm sure 9/11 was all the Democrats fault, I'm quite sure you think that Pearl Harbor was the Democrats fault, all the way back to when this nation was born, everything bad that has ever happened to this country was the fault of the Democrats. You've been singing that same tune forever Viking.....and ya know what? you're wrong. But thanks for proving the point that conservatives don't take responsibility for their own actions.

You know, archer, I blame the desperation that Viking and others display in HAVING to believe that the Dems are responsible for all evil on the way that fundamentalist Christianity got all tangled into politics. With fundamentalist Christians, it's very black and white. There are "us", the "believers" who are "God's Children" and therefore "good" and there is everyone else, the non-believers, who by definition must be of "Satan" and therefore "evil". Once that kind of a mindset crept into politics it was only a matter of time before you saw this extreme polarization. There is only "us" (Godly) and "them" (Satanic) to people who think like that.

They utterly fail to realize that politics is just a bunch of ideas, some good, some not so good, and not a simplistic moral system of "good vs evil".

Wow you sure reach when you are desperate! How did you bring God into this?

Maybe Viking thought that Bush was talking about Democrats.

"My administration has a job to do and we're going to do it. We will rid the world of the evil-doers,"
G W Bush

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/ge ... terrorism/

The Viking wrote:

AspenValley wrote:

archer wrote: Yeah, yeah....and the recession was all the Democrats fault, and the housing bubble and mortgage mess were all the Democrats fault, I'm sure 9/11 was all the Democrats fault, I'm quite sure you think that Pearl Harbor was the Democrats fault, all the way back to when this nation was born, everything bad that has ever happened to this country was the fault of the Democrats. You've been singing that same tune forever Viking.....and ya know what? you're wrong. But thanks for proving the point that conservatives don't take responsibility for their own actions.

You know, archer, I blame the desperation that Viking and others display in HAVING to believe that the Dems are responsible for all evil on the way that fundamentalist Christianity got all tangled into politics. With fundamentalist Christians, it's very black and white. There are "us", the "believers" who are "God's Children" and therefore "good" and there is everyone else, the non-believers, who by definition must be of "Satan" and therefore "evil". Once that kind of a mindset crept into politics it was only a matter of time before you saw this extreme polarization. There is only "us" (Godly) and "them" (Satanic) to people who think like that.

They utterly fail to realize that politics is just a bunch of ideas, some good, some not so good, and not a simplistic moral system of "good vs evil".

Wow you sure reach when you are desperate! How did you bring God into this?

LOL, I think you may be a little confused as to just who "brought God" into this.

Was it me or was it the people who have taken the same black and white "good v evil" approach to politics that they take to religion? And in fact have begun confounding the two?

AspenValley wrote: You know, archer, I blame the desperation that Viking and others display in HAVING to believe that the Dems are responsible for all evil on the way that fundamentalist Christianity got all tangled into politics. With fundamentalist Christians, it's very black and white. There are "us", the "believers" who are "God's Children" and therefore "good" and there is everyone else, the non-believers, who by definition must be of "Satan" and therefore "evil". Once that kind of a mindset crept into politics it was only a matter of time before you saw this extreme polarization. There is only "us" (Godly) and "them" (Satanic) to people who think like that.

They utterly fail to realize that politics is just a bunch of ideas, some good, some not so good, and not a simplistic moral system of "good vs evil".

I wonder what do you blame for the people on this board who still attack Bush for every evil under the sun, and in their hatred struggle to construct a single paragraph without condemning him?

By the way, nice narrow-minded, uninformed, sterotyping.

Thanks for reminding me, I almost forgot how tolerant and open-minded the Liberals really are.

I think the sentence accompanying the most recent graphic evidence says a lot:

"We keep blaming George W Bush for so many of the nation's troubles because quite simply, he is to blame. Of the $14.3T debt, he's responsible for almost 1/2 of it (42.66%)."

There's a reason Bush keeps being attacked.... He is to blame for many of the nation's troubles.... Period.

OmniScience wrote:

AspenValley wrote: You know, archer, I blame the desperation that Viking and others display in HAVING to believe that the Dems are responsible for all evil on the way that fundamentalist Christianity got all tangled into politics. With fundamentalist Christians, it's very black and white. There are "us", the "believers" who are "God's Children" and therefore "good" and there is everyone else, the non-believers, who by definition must be of "Satan" and therefore "evil". Once that kind of a mindset crept into politics it was only a matter of time before you saw this extreme polarization. There is only "us" (Godly) and "them" (Satanic) to people who think like that.

They utterly fail to realize that politics is just a bunch of ideas, some good, some not so good, and not a simplistic moral system of "good vs evil".

I wonder what do you blame for the people on this board who still attack Bush for every evil under the sun, and in their hatred struggle to construct a single paragraph without condemning him?

By the way, nice narrow-minded, uninformed, sterotyping.

Thanks for reminding me, I almost forgot how tolerant and open-minded the Liberals really are.

Being open-minded doesn't mean you have to accept everything uncritically. And yes, I am unabashedly critical of desperate political spinning that is absolutely driven to portray political liberals as evil, if not satanic.

And yes, I do have explanations for why people still detest Bush. In fact someone else stated one this forum today. Because he's responsible for a lot of our current problems, that's why.

AspenValley wrote: So what. I can't tell you how many people I know who had credit ratings north of 725 right before they ran up six figure credit card bills. Just like Bush. Their credit ratings didn't crash until it became obvious they couldn't or wouldn't pay it back. Just like with the Tea Party Republicans in Congress who dangled the country off a cliff over this rather than entertain the idea of a tax hike for the rich.

The TEA Party is all that is preventing the nation from taking the plunge after DC stepped on the accelerator rather than braking with regard to spending. They aren't dangling the nation over the edge, they caught the wrists of the nation when it fell over the edge and are doing all they can to make sure that the nation is pulled back onto solid ground while the nation wriggles,shakes and screams "Let me go!!"

DC needs to learn to survive on less than 18% of GDP regardless of how and where they decide to spend it, that is all this nation is ever going to send them on a consistent basis. That has been proven over the last 60 years regardless of where the tax rates have been set, regardless of how much or how little DC collects in privilege taxes on employment, the consistent average has been 18% of GDP. That is all there will ever be for DC to spend, regardless of who is taxed and how much DC taxes them, the figure is going to be an average of 18% of GDP. That is the tax capacity of this republic, 18% of GDP. The sooner the folks who vote for their living and the politicians in DC come to grips with this the sooner we can all get back to having ground instead of air beneath our feet.