IT'S THE REPUBLICANS ECONOMY NOW

09 Aug 2011 15:02 #151 by The Viking

archer wrote: Yeah, yeah....and the recession was all the Democrats fault, and the housing bubble and mortgage mess were all the Democrats fault, I'm sure 9/11 was all the Democrats fault, I'm quite sure you think that Pearl Harbor was the Democrats fault, all the way back to when this nation was born, everything bad that has ever happened to this country was the fault of the Democrats.


Maybe there is hope for you yet!! You are starting to come around!

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09 Aug 2011 15:06 #152 by archer

The Viking wrote:

archer wrote: Yeah, yeah....and the recession was all the Democrats fault, and the housing bubble and mortgage mess were all the Democrats fault, I'm sure 9/11 was all the Democrats fault, I'm quite sure you think that Pearl Harbor was the Democrats fault, all the way back to when this nation was born, everything bad that has ever happened to this country was the fault of the Democrats.


Maybe there is hope for you yet!! You are starting to come around!


Which proves my point very well....you are indeed delusional.

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09 Aug 2011 15:08 #153 by archer

PrintSmith wrote: The TEA Party is all that is preventing the nation from taking the plunge after DC stepped on the accelerator rather than braking with regard to spending.


Oh I like this reasoning....the Tea Party drives us to the brink of default and economic disaster, then wants credit for keeping us from falling off the cliff. You and Viking are both living in the la la land of a self imposed delusion.

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09 Aug 2011 15:57 #154 by PrintSmith

mittra303 wrote:



We keep blaming George W Bush for so many of the nation's troubles because quite simply, he is to blame. Of the $14.3T debt, he's responsible for almost 1/2 of it (42.66%).

You have got to be kidding, right? Adding the tax rate cuts to the cost of the deficit? Really? That would presume that the economy would have fared as well without those cuts, does it not? A premise which is nothing short of impossible to sustain when reason and logic are employed.

The Clinton tax rates were taking in less as a percentage of GDP before the cuts were instituted than was being realized within a year after the cuts were made. Should Bush have left those rates in place and let the tax revenue as a percentage of GDP continue to decline? Tax revenues as a percentage of GDP increased by nearly 2.5% of GDP in the time span between when the taxes were cut and the Democrats took control of Congress. That is simply fact mittra. Those cuts brought more revenue into the DC coffers, both in actual dollars and as a percentage of GDP, than was coming in before the cuts. Obama's strategy, on the other hand, has revenue flat as a percentage of GDP while DC spending continues to soar out of control. Raising tax rates on a select few at this point isn't going to get you an additional 2.5% of GDP in revenue within 3 years mittra. The tax cuts don't amount to that amount of money, not even when you include the shortened span of depreciation for corporate jets and the tax deduction for capital investments lost in a dry well. A 2.5% increase in revenue as a percentage of GDP equates to something around $365 Billion dollars a year, and even if all the tax increases Obama wants would do that, it would only bring us back to 17.5% of GDP in revenue against a DC government intent on spending 25% of GDP on an annual basis. It would take us from $1.6 Trillion in deficit spending over the course of a year to a much more sustainable level of only $1.2 Trillion a year in deficit spending. A huge difference, don't you think? The problem isn't revenue, it's spending in excess of a trillion dollars of the revenue each and every year without any intention of altering course. The DC government isn't ever going to get 25% of GDP in revenue, it can't even count on 20+% of GDP in revenue because that has happened exactly twice since the end of WWII. Between 19% and 20% of GDP in revenue has been realized 10 times in 65 years. 18%-19% only 13 times. That means that over the last 65 years less than 25% of the time has the federal revenue been in excess of 18% and it has not once been over 21%. Time to start figuring a DC budget on less than 18% of GDP, don't you think?

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09 Aug 2011 16:00 #155 by UNDER MODERATION
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archer wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: The TEA Party is all that is preventing the nation from taking the plunge after DC stepped on the accelerator rather than braking with regard to spending.


Oh I like this reasoning....the Tea Party drives us to the brink of default and economic disaster, then wants credit for keeping us from falling off the cliff. You and Viking are both living in the la la land of a self imposed delusion.



Every corporation in America is worth 15% less than it was before the Republicans took the country hostage last month

Congratulations A-holes

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09 Aug 2011 16:16 #156 by PrintSmith

archer wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: The TEA Party is all that is preventing the nation from taking the plunge after DC stepped on the accelerator rather than braking with regard to spending.

Oh I like this reasoning....the Tea Party drives us to the brink of default and economic disaster, then wants credit for keeping us from falling off the cliff. You and Viking are both living in the la la land of a self imposed delusion.

Wasn't the TEA Party calling for a clean debt limit increase vote archer. How do you suppose our credit rating would have fared if Obama had gotten his way on that instead of having the very notion of raising the debt limit without at least a similar amount of spending cuts vigorously debated?

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09 Aug 2011 16:45 #157 by LadyJazzer
I could sit and watch PS spin for hours...

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09 Aug 2011 16:49 #158 by PrintSmith
Back to the politics of personal destruction for LJ. That must mean she knows it would be no different under that scenario than it is now, hence saddling the TEA Party with responsibility fails to survive even the simplest application of reason against the premise.

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09 Aug 2011 17:07 #159 by Kate

LadyJazzer wrote: I could sit and watch PS spin for hours...


I know. Mesmerizing, isn't it?

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09 Aug 2011 17:18 #160 by LadyJazzer
Revisionist realities are always interesting...It's like watching a never-ending version of "Inception"....

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