Wisconsin D-Day...

10 Aug 2011 12:21 #91 by PrintSmith
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No, you have railed against outside money being spent on local elections and then sent money to support a candidate in another state, thereby engaging in behavior which you previously expressed opposition to. Which means that you, like Bachmann, are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Doing so opens up Bachmann to your criticism for her behavior and at the same time elicits a defense of your own behavior as being both legal and proper.

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10 Aug 2011 12:27 #92 by LadyJazzer
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The same as you and the others have railed against the "millions being pumped in by the unions." The Koch Brothers pumped in millions, the Rove-ian forces pumped in millions... I'll see your millions, and raise you a few more... All you have to do is create a few shell companies, hide the donations, and hide behind the Citizens United loopholes...

To equate that with individual donations that DON'T hide behind the loopholes is hypocrisy at its finest... But then, you are known for that....

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10 Aug 2011 12:45 #93 by Photo-fish
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The Viking wrote: Especially when he is creating jobs and the economy is getting so much better under him.


Source?
This is the second time I have seen this claim. Please provide evidence of any policies that Walker Administration has put forth (in the less than 1 year he has been in office) that has created jobs or improved the economy in Wisconsin. I have family in north, central and southern Wisconsin that would also like this information.

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10 Aug 2011 12:48 #94 by LadyJazzer
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The unemployment rate under Walker has declined...

Wisconsin Unemployment Shows Decline

Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development Secretary Manny Perez shared state unemployment and jobs figures Wednesday that show a slight decline in Wisconsin unemployment.

"The numbers further reaffirm the importance of Governor Walker’s approach to support policies that not only allow the private sector to create jobs in Wisconsin, but also accelerate job growth in our
state,” Perez said. “This is a great time for individuals to re‐enter the workforce, help the state reduce its unemployment burden, and help revitalize our economy. The economy is on the mend.”

The private sector added 10,100 jobs in January, while the public sector lost 3,900 jobs, including 3,600 fewer state government jobs, state data show. Compared to a year ago, the jobs total increased by 37,400 (seasonally-adjusted). Without seasonal adjustment, the total number of jobs increased by 35,700 compared to the January 2010 figure.

Wisconsin’s seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate declined to 7.4 percent in January from 7.5 percent in December, and from 9.2 percent in January 2010. Without seasonal adjustment, the rate stood at 8.2 percent, up from 7.1 percent the previous month, but down from 10.0 percent in January 2010.



http://ashlandcurrent.com/article/11/03 ... ws-decline


So, where's YOUR source?

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10 Aug 2011 12:53 #95 by PrintSmith
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LadyJazzer wrote: The same as you and the others have railed against the "millions being pumped in by the unions." The Koch Brothers pumped in millions, the Rove-ian forces pumped in millions... I'll see your millions, and raise you a few more... All you have to do is create a few shell companies, hide the donations, and hide behind the Citizens United loopholes...

To equate that with individual donations that DON'T hide behind the loopholes is hypocrisy at its finest... But then, you are known for that....

The difference being that we recognize the right of the unions, the Koch brothers and you to exercise your freedoms of speech and association in such a manner whereas your side wants to limit those natural rights.

I simply noted that the millions spent by the unions in getting a second bite at the same apple was ultimately wasted and could have been better spent in providing assistance to their fellow union brothers and sisters who are having a difficult time financially at the present time. I never said that they shouldn't be allowed to waste their money in this fashion, I simply noted that they had.

You, on the other hand, support the union doing this and decry the Koch brothers from acting in the exact same manner - again talking out of both sides of your mouth, which is the exact same behavior you are criticizing someone else for exhibiting.

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10 Aug 2011 13:47 #96 by RenegadeCJ
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LadyJazzer wrote: The same as you and the others have railed against the "millions being pumped in by the unions." The Koch Brothers pumped in millions, the Rove-ian forces pumped in millions... I'll see your millions, and raise you a few more... All you have to do is create a few shell companies, hide the donations, and hide behind the Citizens United loopholes...

To equate that with individual donations that DON'T hide behind the loopholes is hypocrisy at its finest... But then, you are known for that....


Forcing people to pay unions dues just to keep their job, and then using those dues to try to get rid of (or elect) politicians, regardless of whether those people you forcibly took the $$ from supports your politician...is better than what you are saying? Talk about hypocrisy. Unions should not be allowed to forcibly take dues for political uses. If the "people" really support their causes, they can donate money willingly to the union.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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10 Aug 2011 13:53 #97 by outdoor338
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Where is Schultz and Maddow and MSNBC now? Yesterday Schultz was ranting and raving all day reporting a Dem victory. (HMMM, Can he be a reporter or a PR Paid Shill?) I wonder why Washington is interested in Wisconsin. Could it be in 2008 Obama won Wis by about 5000 votes. Count 11 Electoral college votes. Fast foreword, falling confidence, failure to create jobs (sorry save or create jobs), raising energy prices, and an unbalanced budget. Now Wis has balanced the $3.6 Billion dollar deficit budget (Hmmmmm left over from Democratic Legislature and Gov Doyle) . What has Obama done for you lately, Walker and the Republicans have cut spending, not raised taxes, reduced costs, something Washington has failed to do. He is embarrassing Obama and he wants Republicans to lose so they can grab more grants from Washington (Note the Railway Scam$). Made no comment of the cowardly 14 Dem Legislators having lunch in Illinois. Seems to be lost on NBC, MSNBC, and NYT. Failure to note the Unions in Wis even with the reduced bargaining rules HAVE MORE PERKS THAN FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. Note that NBC, MSNBC, NYT?? Last the Tea Party (Not really a party) stopped the spending increases in its tracks (Not perfect but at least stopped for a while). This sticks in the craw of any liberal and especially any Democrat. What will they do without less money to play with. Democrats lastly are basing their campaign on old issues. Republicans are on the newer path of fiscal budget balancing. JMTCW

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10 Aug 2011 14:07 #98 by RenegadeCJ
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LadyJazzer wrote: The unemployment rate under Walker has declined...

Wisconsin Unemployment Shows Decline

Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development Secretary Manny Perez shared state unemployment and jobs figures Wednesday that show a slight decline in Wisconsin unemployment.

"The numbers further reaffirm the importance of Governor Walker’s approach to support policies that not only allow the private sector to create jobs in Wisconsin, but also accelerate job growth in our
state,” Perez said. “This is a great time for individuals to re‐enter the workforce, help the state reduce its unemployment burden, and help revitalize our economy. The economy is on the mend.”

The private sector added 10,100 jobs in January, while the public sector lost 3,900 jobs, including 3,600 fewer state government jobs, state data show. Compared to a year ago, the jobs total increased by 37,400 (seasonally-adjusted). Without seasonal adjustment, the total number of jobs increased by 35,700 compared to the January 2010 figure.

Wisconsin’s seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate declined to 7.4 percent in January from 7.5 percent in December, and from 9.2 percent in January 2010. Without seasonal adjustment, the rate stood at 8.2 percent, up from 7.1 percent the previous month, but down from 10.0 percent in January 2010.



http://ashlandcurrent.com/article/11/03 ... ws-decline


So, where's YOUR source?


So....isn't that good??????? Don't you want lower unemployment??

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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10 Aug 2011 14:09 #99 by Photo-fish
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The Viking wrote: In a Democratic state! The Democrat revolution to allow fiscal irresponsibility is almost over!


Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

When you take into account that these all were predominantly republican districts, it looks more like the GOP lost 1/3 of its base. Not a resounding retention when you look at it that way.

Also remember that moderate Republican Dale Schultz, who voted "NO" on Walker's Budget bill, was not part of this recall. It is reasonably balanced for now.

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10 Aug 2011 16:40 #100 by FredHayek
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No reports of voter fraud yet from the Dem side here?

But this may not be foreshadowing for 2012, might just be an abberation.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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