Obama's Martha Vinyard Vacation

you said it....not me. I sure would hate to think that is the reason, I'd sooner think it's because he's a liberal, and conservatives don't think liberals deserve any rights.

archer wrote:

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Would be nice to see him be a leader and take charge of the Office instead of taking the "advantages" as you say.
Sacrifices are made by Men that accomplish great things.

:rofl

So, nose to the grindstone and all that......heaven forbid the man should spend some time with his wife and daughters. That is just not allowed if you are a Democrat.

If Obama did anything you actually approved of you would find a way to bash it......that's just the way it is.

Archer, this is not about if he needs a vacation or not, job is tough so he most likely does. They way and where he is doing it is the issue more than anything. There is alot of money that is being spent daily for him to be there. Camp David would have sent a better message.

archer wrote: you said it....not me. I sure would hate to think that is the reason, I'd sooner think it's because he's a liberal, and conservatives don't think liberals deserve any rights.

Yea, that makes more sense. Conservatives think that all liberals should all be locked up in reeducation camps.

archer wrote: never mind, nothing he ever does will be acceptable to you, I understand that and will stop trying to point out the hypocrisy of holding his feet to the fire when I seriously doubt you held Bush or Reagan to as high a standard. And yes, Bush took more vacations than anyone, during the early months of the war, after 911....all through his presidency, even when the economy was tanking faster than his approval ratings.....did you whine and moan about that?

I did not like it when clinton did things while hell was breaking loose, did not like it when Bush did it either. I now I don't like it when Obama is doing it. Just because these guys got elected President does not give them the right to flaunt things when the rest of the American people are struggling. Does not matter what the damn party is.

navycpo7 wrote:

archer wrote:

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Would be nice to see him be a leader and take charge of the Office instead of taking the "advantages" as you say.
Sacrifices are made by Men that accomplish great things.

:rofl

So, nose to the grindstone and all that......heaven forbid the man should spend some time with his wife and daughters. That is just not allowed if you are a Democrat.

If Obama did anything you actually approved of you would find a way to bash it......that's just the way it is.

Archer, this is not about if he needs a vacation or not, job is tough so he most likely does. They way and where he is doing it is the issue more than anything. There is alot of money that is being spent daily for him to be there. Camp David would have sent a better message.

Really? how much cheaper? his security is the same no matter where he goes, and the rest he pays for himself. I'm sure Camp David is a lot of fun for his kids, they might like to spend time on a beach.....with other kids, around people other than the government employees......sorry, I don't care what anyone whines about, I think the man and his family deserve a family vacation every year, and it shouldn't be up to the us to decide where he is allowed to go.

or....maybe I'm just sick to death of the constant whining, and crying, and bitching and moaning, day after day after day. Like the little boy who cried wolf, there has been so much whining about the man....his golf game, what his wife wears, who did, or did not get invited to the White House, what kind of dog they got, where they got it, I no longer care what you all whine about, you have over used the outrage of the day to the point that it is meaningless.

archer wrote: [ I think the man and his family deserve a family vacation every year, and it shouldn't be up to the us to decide where he is allowed to go.

Just a reminder in case anyone forgot. This thread was started about the optics of it by noted right wing bat sh*t crazy bagger WayneH.

archer wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote:

archer wrote: sorry cons, but this whole outrage doesn't wash. If this was the first time the right had whined about Obama taking a vacation, I might buy that your outrage is because of the timing......but every time he has taken a vacation with his family.......which he pays for......the right has whined and complained about it. It looks to me more about who is taking the vacation, not about the vacation itself. Previous presidents have taken vacations, especially when congress is on recess, that indicates good timing not bad. There is little he can do till congress is back in session.....and every presidential vacation is a working vacation, they don't get two weeks off from the responsibility, just from the location.

Buy hey, if you are so hard up for something to bitch about, have at it.

Spin spin spin. What you neglect to acknowledge is the fact our country is in very poor shape. Perhaps a better comparison would be to look at what a president did for vacation during the great depression. I've not researched it, but at least then we are talkig about the same thing. It's being willingly stupid to compare Obama's vacation with those of previous presidents who held office during a time when our country prospered or was much better than it is today. Also, if Obama is paying for his own vacation and it's so expensive, then he is not entirely poor is he? I doubt you or I could afford to go there even when we were making money at our peak.

Have you written to your senator and your congress persons about their taking vacations? I will say it again .......this seems more about WHO is taking the vacation than about the fact that a vacation is being taken. And yes, if you go back and look at Bush's presidency he did indeed take vacation while our nation was fighting 2 wars. He was also on vacation in August 2001 when the intelligence community was telling him about an imminent threat from Al Quada. Being on "vacation" does not mean a president isn't actively engaged in running the presidency, or handling day-to-day matters. From day one of Obama's presidency the right has criticised him for anything and everything he does in his personal life....he plays golf, so has nearly every other president we ever had, but the right doesn't like him playing golf. He travels around the world, so has most every president we have ever had, but the right doesn't like Obama traveling around the world.

What's next.....criticising the kind of toilet paper the White House uses? The right didn't even like the dog they chose. It would be funny if it wasn't so blatantly obvious that, because you all hate the man, you have to nit pick everything he does in his personal life.

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Why don't you address what points I raised or is it alway gong to be deflection to some absurd issue that you can actually defend. I love it when this kind of BS posting takes place. i could give a sh*t about Bush's presidency. I'm more interested in how Obama manages his presidency now. Like many Americans, I certainly don't begrudge him his vacation but I do question his judgment something apparently you do not. His choice of vacation is obviously at odds with our economic times. I begrudge him going to "an exclusive resort" at a time of widespread fear and want. "It's where he's going that's the problem this time." FDR seems to have found Campobello Island suitable for his need to recharge his batteries. We won't even go with Abe Lincoln, a real president, who actually cared about his country and it's people. But then again, I'd like to see Obama be a real president, but no matter how much wishful thinking there might be, he simply disappoints on so many different fronts. It's his choice of vacation spots that is the issue, Archer, not all the other BS you bring up and the American people are noticing. Perhaps that is why you feel compelled to defend and justify the poor choices of your president at all cost?

Martin Ent Inc wrote: The point is, people are losing their homes, they can't pay their bills, and they can't feed their kids, and the Leader of the American people takes a vacation and flaunts it in their faces.

No different thatn the CEO's he was complaining about.

No different than Bush did when he was taking vacations and people were losing their homes, couldn't pay their bills, and feed their kids... So?

Standard outrage-of-the-day... :Snooze

As usual LJ is right.

Maybe the prez can just STAY on vaction and let whatever happens happens.
At least we won't have to listen to his dribble.