US becoming a food stamp nation.

24 Aug 2011 14:10 #51 by OmniScience
I'm trying to figure out how half of the minority kids in this country are chronically hungry and the other half are obese.

Among minority populations in this country, the numbers are even more alarming. Statistics from the CDC show that more than 33% of Hispanic/Latino boys are overweight, as are 35.7% of African-American boys and 51.2% of Mexican-American boys. As for female children, 30.1% of Hispanic/Latino girls, 46.4% of African-American girls and 36.7% of Mexican-American girls are overweight.

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24 Aug 2011 14:20 #52 by FredHayek

OmniScience wrote: I'm trying to figure out how half of the minority kids in this country are chronically hungry and the other half are obese.

Among minority populations in this country, the numbers are even more alarming. Statistics from the CDC show that more than 33% of Hispanic/Latino boys are overweight, as are 35.7% of African-American boys and 51.2% of Mexican-American boys. As for female children, 30.1% of Hispanic/Latino girls, 46.4% of African-American girls and 36.7% of Mexican-American girls are overweight.


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24 Aug 2011 14:20 #53 by LadyJazzer
Perhaps this will help you with your self-imposed ignorance:

http://www.hungeractionnys.org/ObPovCSAs.pdf

Then again, .... probably not.

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24 Aug 2011 17:08 #54 by HEARTLESS
Oh happy day! I'm overweight because I don't have enough money. Please send donations to me so I can be lean and fit again. :woo hoo:

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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24 Aug 2011 20:41 #55 by Residenttroll returns

HEARTLESS wrote: Oh happy day! I'm overweight because I don't have enough money. Please send donations to me so I can be lean and fit again. :woo hoo:


How about we give them seeds to plant their food.

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24 Aug 2011 22:56 #56 by Local_Historian

Joe wrote: SC, One fact you missed in your data is the expansion of eligibility for Food stamps under Obama. Its not just for families with dependents anymore, this is a pretty big change in scope for the program. Just Google "Hipster food stamps"

So both the recession and eligibility rules added to the increase in food stamp usage. Just sayin.

http://www.salon.com/life/pinched/2010/ ... ps_pinched

"But they also note that recent changes made to the program as part of last year's stimulus package, which relaxed the restrictions on able-bodied adults without dependents to collect food stamps, have made some young singles around the country eligible for the first time."


Now, let the arrows fly from the usual looneys. LOL!


You act like this is new. If you work 20 hours a week and still fall within the income range set for a single person, two people, etc - you qualify. College students have been getting food stamps for decades on this premise. Single people, childless couples, etc. I did my internshio with social services in Gunnison. What's the main financial support in that county besides cattle - the college. LOTS of college kids, way back inthe dark ages of 1991 qualified for and recieved food stamps.

The big difference is that it still had a different stigma attached - a last resort type of thing. Hipsters make it seem like it is the cool, in thing to do. That, and drink Earle Grey tea, spout pretentious quotes that don't even apply, and wear glasses without lenses.

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24 Aug 2011 23:01 #57 by chickaree
I suppose the negative attitude towards those on food stamps extends to all those freeloaders who serve our nation in the military as well?

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24 Aug 2011 23:14 - 24 Aug 2011 23:25 #58 by Local_Historian

Nobody that matters wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: [Well, no doubt about it... They should be locked up... The nerve!!!

Really gets to you, doesn't it, that someone might accidentally get a Big Mac.... You're pathetic.


That's not pathetic. A Big Mac is a luxury item. There are far more cost-effective quick meals available in the grocery store that owns the parking lots that most McDonald's occupy. Food stamps should be used in the most cost effective way.

I don't think it's too much to ask a food stamp recipient to spend their own cash for fast food and save the aid money for better values.


Bullcrap - been pricing things lately? Yes, a box of mac and cheese is cheaper than a big mac. Especially if you only use water to mix it, not the margarine and milk like the box says. I went online, and looked it up, and the average price for a Big Mac is three dollars. Now, I challenge you to make a nutritious meal, buying all the ingredients, for that three dollars. Let's see, if we buy the components for a Big Mac type burger to make at home - two burger patties, cheese, lettuce, pickles, onions, bun. special sauce, which a friend in high school said the McDonlad's he worked at mixed mayo and ketchup. So we'll say mayo and ketchup. You can spend about $20 for those items. Yes, you can get three Big Mac equivalents out of that, and some items you can keep and use more times. But that's about $5.

Now, you go to the dollar menu, and a hamburger is still UNDER a dollar, small bag of fries are a dollar, and a damn large soda is $1. $3 and you get a meal. Add that stuff to your shopping list, and all of the sudden, your meal price goes up closer to $7-8.

See, if you had used Wendy's as an example - then I might have been inclined to agree with you. Instead, you picked an item that is cheap, from one of the cheapest fast food restaurants. If all that's in your pocket is $3 - food stamps or cash - you're gonna buy the cheapest thing you can to fill your belly.

Omni asked how come poor kids are fat - it's all in the foods you can afford to eat. Proven fact - families that have a lot of fresh veggies and fruit in their diets, lean meats, the higher quality food - they are skinnier. It also costs a buttload more than buying a bunch of box potatoes, the cheapest cuts of meat you can find - usually high fat burger, and eating a LOT Of pasta - mac and cheese, spagetti, etc. Too many carbs=fat people.

This is NOT new info - and I'll leave it to SC to pull out the eye burning facts on this - I'm just baffled you guys don't know this; that eating well is much more expensive than just eating.

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24 Aug 2011 23:18 - 24 Aug 2011 23:23 #59 by Local_Historian

SS109 wrote:

Nobody that matters wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: [Well, no doubt about it... They should be locked up... The nerve!!!

Really gets to you, doesn't it, that someone might accidentally get a Big Mac.... You're pathetic.


That's not pathetic. A Big Mac is a luxury item. There are far more cost-effective quick meals available in the grocery store that owns the parking lots that most McDonald's occupy. Food stamps should be used in the most cost effective way.

I don't think it's too much to ask a food stamp recipient to spend their own cash for fast food and save the aid money for better values.


The Left also rationalizes that the poor and homeless don't have the education or equipment to cook their own meals, one reason they now want to offer 3 hot meals a day for poor school kids and I can imagine if you only have a shopping cart, it can be hard to cook a hot, 4 course meal.


That's pretty snide. Really, show me a homeless guy with even a camp stove - I've seen a couple, but not all, not even close. No way to cook, you eat out of a can or a box, simple as that. Liken it to camping in torrential rain, where you were dependent upon a fire you can't even start to cook your food. You eat out of the package, right? Well, do it every day.

Four course meal - wow. Most people don't even eat that, even on a holiday, so you're just being ridiculous now.

Hey RT - when people live in an apartment without any unpaved dirt around them, where exactly are they supposed to grow those seeds? Even if you were to hand someone up here a handful of seeds, they are unlikely to be able to produce anything without a greenhouse, or a coldframe at the very least - and how many know how to build either, or have the resources to do so? Without a greenhouse, only thing I ever got to grow successfully up here was some leaf lettuce - and the ground squirrel got to that before I could. And I grew up having to help tend the garden. I am an exception. But good job for assuming that everyone poor should also be innately agricultural - like it's genetic or something. :bash

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24 Aug 2011 23:22 #60 by chickaree
Go into a store in the poor section of town. You won't find milk, eggs, oranges and brocolli. You'll find chips, sugary drinks, hot dogs and candy. You expect a single working mom without a car tosomehow get on a bus to the 'burbs and buy a weeks worth of groceries. Oh wait. I forgot. You don't care, you just hate anyone who might actually need assistance from their fellow man. Only the strong should survive in that world.

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