Question for the Cain supporters

30 Oct 2011 10:00 #31 by Wayne Harrison

Arlen wrote:

Conservation Voice wrote:

Arlen wrote: Their immediate lead in the polls was due to media hype and Democrat endorsement. (They want to pick out candidate for us so that they will have an easy victory.)


I'm curious. How exactly would Democrats pick out a Republican candidate for the Republicans? I would think Republicans would be the ones who would decide who their candidate will be.

Even PBS was singing the praises of Romney. Extolling his political virtues. CNN did the same, as did MSNBC. These are Democratic supporting businesses.

Just my take on it.



And that translates into Republican votes for a Republican candidate, how? You're not suggesting Republicans listen to PBS, CNN and MSNBC to find out who they should vote for, are you?

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30 Oct 2011 10:04 #32 by The Viking

Conservation Voice wrote:

Arlen wrote:

Conservation Voice wrote:

Arlen wrote: Their immediate lead in the polls was due to media hype and Democrat endorsement. (They want to pick out candidate for us so that they will have an easy victory.)


I'm curious. How exactly would Democrats pick out a Republican candidate for the Republicans? I would think Republicans would be the ones who would decide who their candidate will be.

Even PBS was singing the praises of Romney. Extolling his political virtues. CNN did the same, as did MSNBC. These are Democratic supporting businesses.

Just my take on it.



And that translates into Republican votes for a Republican candidate, how? You're not suggesting Republicans listen to PBS, CNN and MSNBC to find out who they should vote for, are you?


A lot of Moderates, Independents and undeicides still do yes.

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30 Oct 2011 10:13 - 30 Oct 2011 10:37 #33 by Wayne Harrison
Moderates, Independents and undecideds don't select the Republican nominee.

Arlen made the right's frequently-stated claim that the media and Democrats "want to pick out candidate for us so that they will have an easy victory." That seems like a way for the right to not accept responsibility for the candidate they select -- blame the left for forcing them to pick that candidate.

I'm asking exactly how the media and Democrats decide who the Republican nominee will be. I thought you guys thought for yourselves.

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30 Oct 2011 10:35 #34 by Arlen

The Viking wrote: I am so sick of Cain supporters throwing that out there! WE HAVE TO VET ALL THE CANDIDATES!!! They attacked the heck out of Perry when he bacame leader. So do all you Cain supporters just want us to sit back, ignore all the faults, mistakes and poor policies and plans for now until he gets the nomination and then let Obama tear him apart? I DON'T WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF OBAMA!!! Attacking and getting the truth out htere are 2 totally different things!




Now hold on Viking. I am very sure that you have watched the debates and remember how Romney and Perry were sniping and snarking at each other during those debates. They were the ones attacking each other while America watched. It was totally repulsive.

The viewing public asked themselves this question: "Is this behavior the behavior of a president?" Then Perry revealed his illegal immigration policies. Out comes Perry's Ni**erhead hunting lease. Perry's demise was the result of Romney and Perry, himself. Romney is dragging the weight of RomneyCare and his totally unpresidential argument techniques in the debates. Plus, he will say anything "to please" to whichever audience is in front of him. Romney comes across as a managed, groomed, trained, political performer. Cain had absolutely nothing to do with the destruction of Perry and Romney.

Get this: plans of a candidate mean very little at this point. You strike me as a man who is old enough to know this.

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30 Oct 2011 10:58 #35 by The Viking

Arlen wrote:

The Viking wrote: I am so sick of Cain supporters throwing that out there! WE HAVE TO VET ALL THE CANDIDATES!!! They attacked the heck out of Perry when he bacame leader. So do all you Cain supporters just want us to sit back, ignore all the faults, mistakes and poor policies and plans for now until he gets the nomination and then let Obama tear him apart? I DON'T WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF OBAMA!!! Attacking and getting the truth out htere are 2 totally different things!




Now hold on Viking. I am very sure that you have watched the debates and remember how Romney and Perry were sniping and snarking at each other during those debates. They were the ones attacking each other while America watched. It was totally repulsive.

The viewing public asked themselves this question: "Is this behavior the behavior of a president?" Then Perry revealed his illegal immigration policies. Out comes Perry's Ni**erhead hunting lease. Perry's demise was the result of Romney and Perry, himself. Romney is dragging the weight of RomneyCare and his totally unpresidential argument techniques in the debates. Plus, he will say anything "to please" to whichever audience is in front of him. Romney comes across as a managed, groomed, trained, political performer. Cain had absolutely nothing to do with the destruction of Perry and Romney.

Get this: plans of a candidate mean very little at this point. You strike me as a man who is old enough to know this.


Are you being serious? A man with no plan has the best chance of not only beating Obama but turning this country around? I am not following that logic at all! SO it goes like this....? How will Cain turn the country around and help the economy? "I have no idea but he is a great speaker and likable guy so just vote him in and let's find out?' That is what Pelosi said about the healthcare plan! We need to vote it in to see what is in it!

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30 Oct 2011 11:26 #36 by Arlen
Until Cain offered his 999, there were NO plans offered by any candidates. His offering of a plan was the only concrete campaign offering. I thought it a strange thing to do, but it gave people something to consider. Since then others have offered "plans" but they are following in the wake of Cain, and it is obvious. Their's are "me, too" campaigns.

That is what the public has seen and it has molded their opinion of the candidates. Arguing against Cain will not change how the candidates have presented themselves.

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30 Oct 2011 12:26 #37 by The Viking

Arlen wrote: Until Cain offered his 999, there were NO plans offered by any candidates. His offering of a plan was the only concrete campaign offering. I thought it a strange thing to do, but it gave people something to consider. Since then others have offered "plans" but they are following in the wake of Cain, and it is obvious. Their's are "me, too" campaigns.

That is what the public has seen and it has molded their opinion of the candidates. Arguing against Cain will not change how the candidates have presented themselves.


No true at all! Cain threw out a plan that was not thought out at all. Raised taxes on 84% of Americans. Perry has talked about a flat tax in Texas for years. So I love how people keep saying everyone folowed Cain on this. He is still working on his 3rd version of it. guess he is trying to copy and follow Perry now. :biggrin: And Perry was only in for about a month when Cain came out with this and Perry came out with an energy plan first. He said that he was going to put out a tax plan early on. Just because Cain threw out an unworkable plan doesn't mean Perry followed him.

And again. No one is answering. What PLAN of Cain's do you support for creating jobs? The number 1 issue in the country. The number one issue for 14 million unemployed Ameicans is not who is most presentable with no plan to get them working. Someone just tell me what plan of Cain's they support! I don't care about his speaking (which he has said some pretty stupid things already) OR how he dresses, or walks or what kind of unerwear he wears. I DON"T CARE ABOUT THAT!! It is about jobs, jobs, jobs!

If you are trying to convince people to vote for Cain, you guys sure aren't giving anything to work with! What are you selling people on?

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30 Oct 2011 13:01 #38 by archer
So Perry gets stimulus money from the feds and creates a bunch of jobs in TX. If he becomes president who is going to give him money to create US jobs? What exactly is HIS jobs plan?

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30 Oct 2011 13:13 #39 by The Viking

archer wrote: So Perry gets stimulus money from the feds and creates a bunch of jobs in TX. If he becomes president who is going to give him money to create US jobs? What exactly is HIS jobs plan?


Guess you haven't payed attention. His energy plan. His tax plan bringing companies back onshore with a one time tax break. An independent company(can't remember the name of it) has already said that one plan alone will bring over $336 billion back to the US and possibley over 1 million jobs.

And you have no clue. Over 200 companies have moved to Texas almost 150 left California for Texas. Hundreds of thousands of jobs. That had nothing to do with any stimulus money. It was all Perry's regulations and tax policies. And he will bring that to the country!

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30 Oct 2011 13:16 #40 by The Viking
And here are 10 huge companies who have moved their companies abroad to avoid taxes "corporate inversion," while others deem these businesses “expatriate corporations.” Whichever term you prefer, the fact is that several successful American companies have moved their headquarters overseas in recent years to avoid hefty U.S. taxes.

Perry's plan is to give them a huge break to them and thousands of other companies like this, to bring them back to the US and employ millions more here!

Obama does not understand business AT ALL!!

http://www.focus.com/fyi/10-big-busines ... ed-abroad/

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