Law criminalizes sex between adults - 'Hot for Teacher' bill

05 Dec 2011 14:01 #1 by Reverend Revelant
Welcome to the nanny state: Senate panel criminalizes sex between legal adults in 'Hot for Teacher' bills

It will be a felony for adult students to have sex with teachers or any other employee at their school, if the Senate Judiciary Committee gets its way.


Right now, it's illegal for teachers to have sex with kids under the age of majority, which makes perfect sense. But new legislation that passed the Judiciary committee this week would cover students of any age -- which could technically mean a teacher could get 15 years in prison for poking an adult education student of 45.

Talk about the nanny state run amok. It's no wonder many are calling these the "Hot for Teacher" bills.

What the bills are really about is protecting the virtue of 18-year-olds still in high school. (If we're being honest, it's really about the idea of 18-year-old girls getting preyed upon).

http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf ... e_sen.html


Damn it... and I was planing on hitting on this 80 year old babe in my "Breathing to Stay Alive" class that I'm teaching over at the Evergreen Seniors' Resource Center.

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05 Dec 2011 14:08 #2 by FredHayek
Interesting! So Colorado can double up on court costs, fines and jail time. So no victims in this crime, they both get charged.

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05 Dec 2011 14:12 #3 by Reverend Revelant

FredHayek wrote: Interesting! So Colorado can double up on court costs, fines and jail time. So no victims in this crime, they both get charged.


Fred... did you even read this... (cue Jeopardy theme... ... ... ... ... ...) this is about MICHIGAN, not Colorado. Geeeessshhhhh.

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05 Dec 2011 14:21 #4 by ScienceChic
I'm undecided on whether this should be a law (as there are already more than enough dumb laws regarding the topic of sex on the books in various states), but it absolutely is morally reprehensible, and should be wrong, that a student-teacher relationship is breached in this manner. When there is a position of power involved, such as employer-direct report employee, or student-teacher, that's a line that shouldn't be crossed. If the relationship is that important, wait until graduation, or find another job. Just my opinion.

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05 Dec 2011 14:23 #5 by Martin Ent Inc

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05 Dec 2011 14:29 #6 by Reverend Revelant

Science Chic wrote: I'm undecided on whether this should be a law (as there are already more than enough dumb laws regarding the topic of sex on the books in various states), but it absolutely is morally reprehensible, and should be wrong, that a student-teacher relationship is breached in this manner. When there is a position of power involved, such as employer-direct report employee, or student-teacher, that's a line that shouldn't be crossed. If the relationship is that important, wait until graduation, or find another job. Just my opinion.


As stated in the article, this law would be all inclusive, and cover anyone and everyone of legal age. That's my problem with it. Do adults have to have a law to cover every voluntary action they can perform that may result in a problem or embarrassment? And there are work place romances all over the business world, what makes adult teacher/students any difference than adult boss/co-worker, adult preacher/parishioner or adult research department head/female scientist? The left is always fighting for the rights of alternative lifestyle participants... but a normal adult heterosexual relationship suddenly needs to be on some do/don't list? Bullsh**e.

I would think this would bother you? It's sponsored by two Republicans.

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05 Dec 2011 14:39 #7 by jf1acai
So if the wife is a school secretary, and the husband takes a night class there, sex becomes a felony?

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05 Dec 2011 14:43 #8 by Photo-fish
Since there is no student/teacher relationship there, I would say no. Unless the husband is taking secretarial classes and the wife is the teacher???

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05 Dec 2011 14:53 #9 by jf1acai

It will be a felony for adult students to have sex with teachers or any other employee at their school, if the Senate Judiciary Committee gets its way.

- emphasis added.

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05 Dec 2011 15:01 #10 by Reverend Revelant

jf1acai wrote:

It will be a felony for adult students to have sex with teachers or any other employee at their school, if the Senate Judiciary Committee gets its way.

- emphasis added.


Ok... that's two people out of four people on this thread that didn't read the link to the whole article. And you wonder why some people here sound so stupid.

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